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<0> i use BufferedReader for input.. when i did readLine() it blocked.. and waited
<0> so i rather checked ready() periodically
<1> I'm connecting to a news server and that triggers input. Then I send out a command using a PrintStream which should trigger more input but doesn't. Very odd.
<0> mm
<1> wolfey: right, that is what I have done too.
<0> did you flush() output?
<0> or dunno
<0> i didnt do so low level
<1> Bingo. Say no more.
<0> :)
<1> never used flush() and never spotted it. Thats where I went wrong, has to be.
<1> wolfey: ta
<0> Lion-O: well i wouldnt know if i didnt forget the same a few days ago
<0> ;))
<1> hehe ;)
<1> wolfey: well, these are my first steps on Sockets and the demo programs show me a lot of examples but at this moment I'm at a point where I'm wondering if I picked things up right. Turns out I did so I have a bug somewhere.
<1> so far I have this eleet NNTP reader; it connects and returns 1 line :-)
<1> "server ready" :)
<0> good enough;)
<0> i played with sockets a lot this week
<0> you know my game;)
<0> but i focused on just exchanging lines of text
<0> BufferedReader and PrintWriter
<0> as tutorial suggested
<0> http://bsn-61-107-81.dial-up.dsl.siol.net/netlines-homepage/src/netlines/
<0> Service.java and Client.java
<0> i experimented a bit how to put it rigth
<0> this works best
<0> njoy
<2> What do you guys think about this app im creating: http://temp.corgrath.com/ces.avi <-- please share comments :)
<3> looks annoying imho :P
<4> media play won't play it
<4> eot
<3> calchas: use multimedia-enabled system like Linux :P
<2> annoying? =) its Genious!
<3> Bouncy: too clever for me, but hey, I'm old-skool dude :)
<4> why is this worth seeing or something
<3> it's an overly intrusive autocompleting text field demo
<2> intrusive?
<3> I prefer Eclipse-style - stay quiet until asked for help OR Gnome style -- stay quiet until there's only one possibility left and typing more have no sense
<3> I don't know about you but for me this cursor jumping left and right was dizzying, I'd hate such interface pretty quickly
<2> Yea, im trying to fix the curso now.
<2> But its advance JComponent coding then :/
<1> eeeew
<1> that looks horrible to me
<2> yea yea :) im working on 0.2 now!
<1> no, I think the concept isn't worth it.
<1> whenever there are more than one option it simply keeps gibbering. When it comes to input fields I really prefer the method of a drop down displaying all possible results.
<2> Its not possible with an inputfield, ive noticed. have to create my own JCOmponent
<2> or something
<1> Bouncy: Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. When being used for specific tasks I guess this could be usefull, but not for the things I'm doing 8)
<5> that thing would drive me up the bloody wall!
<2> what specific stuff are you doing?
<2> ill show you guys! just wait!
<2> ill come back into this channel and show off my world revolutionzing app :)
<5> Bouncy: I detest intrusive autocompletion (OOo has it by default, or used to, drove me insane)
<5> I want the app to get the hell out of my way and let me type. If I want a suggestion for autocomplete, I'll ask (Exclipse style is good)
<1> aye, that goes for me on Netbeans too.
<1> no completion, not anything, untill I say so. I can live with the red line I get every now and then, thats the only reason I kept that on.
<5> hmm
<5> no, I really *really* can't spend on more books this month
<5> I do want it thoguh
<5> maybe I can con work into paying for it
<5> hmm, found an rtf of it
<5> http://www.codeguru.com/java/tij/
<5> is that legit or some kind of warez?
<6> legit
<5> cool, saves me a few quid then
<5> I'll buy the dead tree another month
<5> presumably this is not 4th Edition then?
<6> 4th edition isn't available online legitimatel
<1> :)
<5> this will do for now
<5> I'll buy it next month
<5> I prefer owning dead-tree in any case
<1> thinking in Java? That can be downloaded for free, 3th edition. I have it on my intranet ever since Clackwell mentioned it.
<6> Lion-O: eckel's a nice guy too
<1> Its a nice book IMO, but I have to admit that the combination of the Java tutorial from Sun & the 'Java Fundamental Cl***es Reference' from O'Reilly have really bought me up to speed so far.
<1> jottinger: could be, never met the guy myself
<6> I have
<4> you just eat it ?
<7> I find that no matter how I plan, I end up learning new stuff at 2am the day before deadline.
<1> hmm.... Is it possible that my command send out on a PrintWriter takes too... Oh fsck it, I'll just add a wait loop.
<1> YES YES YES... <insert maniacal screaming here>
<1> how do you like this? My java program was TOO FAST for me. It did everything I expected but it send out the command and immediatly waited for input, which at that time wasn't there yet.
<1> NOW I have to go back to my previous examples and see what those would have done 8-) thanks again ... he isn't here ... wolfey gave me a good hint on "flushing".
<2> Can you set one part of a JLabel with one color and the other with another color? :P
<2> that would be cool.
<1> I'd say you can, not positive. But you should be able to dump 2 strings with control characters to it.
<1> duh, RTFM
<1> The JDK docs on JLabel point you *directly* to this: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/components/label.html
<2> looks better huh? http://temp.corgrath.com/ces2.avi
<5> Bouncy: for what it is, it looks fine. It's not my sort of tool though. I guess there are people out there who might like it
<2> Ive just added mixed-color-coding too. looks good.
<2> My idea is add a shortcut to the taskbar-shortcut-menu that starts this program. and you can easy start your program without going via Startmenu
<8> I heard that 6 out of 5 idiots don't understand start menus.
<5> I can hit <win>-R or <alt>-F2 depending where I am and just type what I want to start, but sure...if that's useful to you, go for it
<2> so you can start "run" and just type firefox?
<5> starting up a java app to launch programs seems a bit like overkill, but who knows
<2> crap you could :(
<2> even photoshop worked
<5> yep
<2> i hate you Gates! Stealing my idea!!
<2> i hate you Gates! Stealing my ideas!!
<1> smsie: even then I'd like the window approach best; multiple scores being displayed and narrowed down.
<5> Bouncy: in fairness, Windows has had this for over 10 years now...
<5> since 95 in fact
<2> whatever dude.
<5> if it's useful for you, then go for it...don't let my scepticism drag you down
<2> it cant start all programs tho
<1> sure it can.
<2> unless you create a shortcut in c:\windows or something
<1> lol
<5> I don't recall the criteria it uses
<1> it needs to be in your searchpath, thats all.
<2> not PATH tho.
<1> if its not in the path just use a direct path or edit the searchpath.
<2> anyway, if you want to start firefox for the first time you have to type all SEVEN characters.
<5> it's much handier in Linux, since most all programs are in the search path
<5> in windows it's less easy, but not a big problem
<5> Bouncy: I don't type particularly fast (about 40wpm maybe)...I can't say that typing 7 characters is a big issue to me :)
<5> but then I'm insane, I type all my code rather than use drag and drool tools
<5> I realise that using a keyboard is a dying art. Your tool will no doubt be useful to many
<1> lol
<1> I yell it all into my mic driving my gf crazy. JVRP ;) Java Voice Reconition Programming :)
<5> Dasher is pretty good for writing java with a mouse if you feed it enough code to train
<5> if I wanted to write java with a mouse though, I'd be using jbuilder or similar
<2> check this baby out! http://temp.corgrath.com/ces5.avi
<5> wher eis it getting the list of startables from?
<8> I think the text file programming languages will die, but I don't think we can mix them in the meantime.
<5> rickety: I sincerely doubt they'll die in my lifetime :)
<8> smsie: I bet all those HTML editing people dreaded FrontPage appearing.
<5> rickety: why? Frontpage is what it is. I wouldn't use it, but then I'm insane. I write html in a text editor
<5> I don't have much feeling towards frontpage one way or the other. I don't use it, but I don't care if someone else does
<8> Yeah, but if frontpage didn't exist, there'd be a market for HTML writers.
<5> rickety: there is, a huge market. Web design is about the design far more than it is about the writing html. That was always the case
<8> Except there are server-side aspects to get in the way.
<5> not really
<8> And now the non-techies can do HTML.
<5> that's still a coder's domain
<5> what you're saying is (essentially) "it's a shame that tools like paint shop pro has put artistic people out of work"
<5> it's not true
<5> a tool is a tool
<5> web design is done by designers. If Frontpage is a more useful tool to them than vi, great! Personally I'll stick to using a text editor, but then I'm not a web designer
<8> No, but you could say that it's a shame that PSP has put the manual labourers who colour in the Simpson's still frames out in Taiwan out of business.
<5> why is that a shame?
<8> It isn't, but it's closer to what I was saying than what you said is.
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