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<0> I use Debian.
<1> whats that like?
<0> it's good.
<0> using XFCE windows UI
<0> it's fast and runs gazillions of program at once.
<1> so would you say that
<1> debian is the best balance between performance and functionality?
<0> yes it's fast and runs very well.. stable..
<0> I haven't rebooted for 6 days straight.
<1> dual booting between windows and debian shouldnt be too hard right?
<0> it's easy.
<0> I have done it for my mates.
<1> i'd need two partitions right?
<0> just need to configure it properly (your hdd)
<1> sorry, i have no experience with dual booting
<1> and linux only supports FAT32 to the best of my knowledge



<0> you need /, /boot and swap partition first for Linux
<0> nope
<0> NTFS read/write support
<1> but it would be better to use fat32
<0> its your choice
<1> well, am i correct?
<1> i read on wikipedia that linux runs better on fat32
<0> I haven't experienced that.
<1> two partitions though right?
<0> I set up some stuff on my mates place to access ntfs, fat32 r/w support. He said it works ok.
<0> no.
<1> can you run it through two partitions? or is that a pain?
<0> Linux needs at minimal, root partition, /boot partition, swap partition
<2> starsky_ : no
<0> ?
<1> oh man i really have to ****
<2> only 1
<1> ill probably just use my secondh ard drive
<1> but right now i really have to poo
<0> you need swap if you want optimal performace
<2> root and boot can be the same, swap can be skipped with sufficient memory
<0> hel
<0> "root" is "/" and boot is "/boot"
<2> actually linux does not have real ntfs read/write support
<0> "real" ?
<2> reading works fine, but writing is purely experimental and not fully functional
<0> not necessarily.. depends on which kernel u use
<2> starsky_ : i', saying you don't need a separate /boot partition
<2> have one partition as / works fine
<2> starsky_ : that has nothing to do with the kernel imho
<0> kmh: i talking about ntfs support
<2> me too
<0> ntfs support for kernel 2.6.16
<0> read on that.
<0> :)
<2> at least last time i checked the docs, tey clearly said writing is experimental (and discouraged the use)
<1> so it isnt possible to run linux on one partition and windows on the other/
<1> ?*
<0> yes.. that's how you do it Orpheus.
<1> oh
<0> you run linux on seperate partition
<0> you need "/" partition to install Linux
<0> they are all sorted out during installation.
<1> where would i find a complete idiots tutorial to that?
<0> if you're gonna dual boot, just try Ubuntu..
<0> it's better than you actually think.
<1> ok
<2> Orpheus : it is
<2> and with most distros the install is self explaining
<0> but just be careful regarding overwriting the ntfs/fat32 partition.
<0> that's the only problem
<1> im just going to reformat
<0> :)
<2> starsky_ : got an url for ntfs write support ?
<0> yes.. just wait.
<1> my windows installation is past its prime anyway
<1> winblows has a half-life =P
<1> is ubuntu good performance-wise?
<1> im going to take this to #linux
<0> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
<0> I don't dual boot so I can't help you mate. ;-)



<1> im just asking if ubuntu is good performance wise
<1> not how to dual boot
<0> that was for kmh.
<0> yes
<0> when I installed it, it ran good.
<1> you see
<0> he said he download some recent version.. and its even better.
<1> i dont really want to give up performance for functionality
<0> Orpheus: just try it yourself.. I don't have 100% expereince with Ubuntu.
<0> I just installed it.
<1> im thinking im going to be going with debian
<1> im going to completely reformat my computer
<1> install linux
<1> then create a new partition and put in a windows install cd
<0> Before you do anything, I recommend you to have some working internet connections to refer to if you get stuck during installation... or print it if you prefer
<0> I mean in another computer or something..
<1> i do
<1> my damn small linux box in the living room
<0> ok
<0> :)
<2> starsky_ : ....Still mostly read-only, but with safe file overwrite support on all Windows versions including changes to the file size (uncompressed, unencrypted, non-sparse files only).
<0> hey btw, this is a #java right ?
<0> :)
<2> that's a quote from the current docs
<0> :-)
<3> hello
<2> Orpheus : i don't think the distribution itsself has that much influence on the performance, rather which services and guis you select (gnome, kde, light weight window manager, webserver, database etc ...)
<2> ubuntu is probably good choice for new users provided they have a dsl (or faster) internet connection
<0> kmh: have you looked into LinuxNTFS ?
<2> i'm about too, this one was from http://www.linux-ntfs.org/content/view/15/29/
<0> I told you to look in to captiveNTFS
<0> :-/
<0> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
<0> grrr.....
<3> Anyone faced a problem similar to this? http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=480655&messageID=2239793 I cant find anything in bug list or google ...serversocket just stops accepting new connections ...but linux identifies the listen port as active
<2> the url you posted is not the (standard) kernel driver afaik
<0> C[_]: netstat -an -p | less
<0> kmh: you have to download it
<0> grrr....
<3> may i post output here? or msg?
<2> yes
<4> hi, i have to print a credential,, has anyonw a idea how to do it=?
<2> what i mean it is not the ntfs support that comes with your regular distro (that is only safe for reading)
<3> sry .. thought the yes was for me
<2> this one runs a windows emulation, thus creating a considerable overhead i ***ume
<2> but therefore it writes safely
<0> :)
<3> please let me know if u want to see the output .. server right now is in the weird hanging state
<3> initially thought it had something to do with number of open FDs ... but we ruled that one out
<3> server doesnt throw any kind of exception..
<0> what does netstat -an -p | less say ? just put the tcp/udp output and no socket's please.
<0> hhahaah
<0> muahhha..
<0> :)
<0> paste it at rafb.net
<4> so,,nobody?
<0> javalen: what's credentials ?
<4> for example, if you go to the university,, you get a credential whit your pic
<0> ?
<3> thank you. .. done
<0> C[_]: where
<0> ?
<0> ok solved I am ***uming ?
<3> http://rafb.net/paste/results/YyDqQb42.html
<3> the actual output btw is longer .. there are even some established connection ... server seems to be working perfectly except for accepting new connections
<0> your java code seems to be listening at 12222
<3> yes
<0> so what's the problem ?
<3> its working perfectly ... but after a few days of running the server ... serversocket stops accepting new connections
<3> new conenctions show up as SYN_RECV when we do netstat ...
<3> the partial output u see is for a server facing this problem
<0> so you are opening the socket and then delegating each request seperately ? using thread ?
<3> yes
<0> are you closing each connection ?


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