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<0> kmh: compiler > interpreter
<1> say for example, Java bytecode is loaded into JVM. Then JVM simply goes line by line through the bytecode and executes.
<2> Orpheus : no
<0> in all performance aspects
<3> I am sure ***embly is faster than C++, but I would not want to code in it for 2 different platforms...
<2> Orpheus : that paradigm is wrong as a general statement
<1> Machine code is faster thatn ***embly.
<1> pure machine code.
<1> 01000101010101
<2> compiler > interpreter in many scenarios
<3> Hey watch that language here!
<0> yes, but it isnt extremely difficult to compile c++ source code for different platforms
<2> lol
<1> what language ? lol ?
<0> and since 99% of people use winblows anyway
<0> it doesnt really matter



<1> Orpheus: you are wrong.
<3> lol, you windows troller you....
<1> yet again. ;-)
<1> I am using Debian
<2> oprpheus went to microsoft's underworld
<0> =)
<3> well, time to reboot this POS XP box to clear out all the M$ suspend inefficiencies and get to some CoV crime...
<1> Orpheus: Just try to clear your head. There are so many OSes around other than winblows.
<1> :)
<1> Just an advice.
<1> :)
<0> yeah
<2> actually i biggest drawback ic with linux are missing drivers
<0> linux, etc. is for running servers
<1> well... I am getting everything to work completely fine.
<1> not necessarily.
<0> it isnt friendly when you want to go burn a dvd, play music, manage files, play games
<1> Orpheus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
<1> Orpheus: please...
<2> though the out of the box hardware support of most linux distros is clearly better than xp it gets compensated by the huge amount of 3rd party drivers for hardware
<0> counter-strike source on linux
<0> theres an example
<1> Yeah gaming..
<1> that's the problem with me too.
<1> THe video drivers.. ;-)
<2> i.e. almost everybody sells his stuff with a windows driver but often without a linix driver
<1> sorry..
<1> but I think that's changing.
<0> there is no directx for linux
<0> to the best of my knowledge
<1> Nvidia is opensourcing it's drivers code.
<2> what do you want with cs on linux without a proper graphic driver ?
<1> opengl.
<0> you cant run css in opengl
<0> 1.6
<0> not source
<0> doom 3, farcry, shadowrun, etc. etc.
<0> all directx based games
<1> gaming scene is changing soon in Linux.
<1> :)
<1> that's all I know.
<2> Orpheus : modern linux distribution are often as friendly as windows (even esaier to install out of the box)
<0> eh
<0> to install yes
<1> true.
<1> nope.
<2> Orpheus : and to use
<1> to do so much more than winblows.
<1> freedom.
<0> i used that small damn linux
<0> or whatever its called
<2> but they lack 3rd party drivers for your printer or graphic card or etc.
<1> write your own firewall rules..
<1> have your own antivirus source.
<2> starsky_ : you can doo al that on windows as well
<1> not necessarily.. HPlib does great job
<2> HPlib ?
<0> yeah
<0> and all of that stuff is a lot easier on winblows
<0> then on linux
<1> hp lib is a library for printing and image processing etc.. on Gnu/Linux



<2> what good does that do you for a lexmark printer ?
<1> I have never had lexmark printer.
<1> but you can get drivers for that.. google is your friend there.
<0> i do
<2> image processing or printing features are not the probelm, the hardware driver for the printer is
<2> no you can't
<2> always
<1> kmh: if you want to print, you can.
<4> hi
<2> that is exactly the 3rd party problem many (in particular new) hardware pieces do not have a linux driver
<0> starsky: linux is faster than windows
<0> i admit that
<2> so you can google all you want
<0> but you have to admit that windows is a hell of a lot easier to use
<1> yes.. it's but till now..
<2> starsky_ : print what ? ascii ?
<1> kmh: print any text/pdf/doc ....
<2> Orpheus : not it isn't many tasks are as esay under linux with gnome or kde
<1> The only problem is that you have to spend some time trying to get everything to work.
<2> starsky_ : into a file
<0> w/e i game a lot
<0> so linux is no good for me
<1> kmh: no.
<0> i use it to host my server
<2> starsky_ : i prefer it to come out of my printer though
<1> yes.. it's not for everyone.
<0> but i dont use it to game and use ever day
<2> starsky_ : rebooting to windows for printing it isn't that thrilling
<0> because its too much of a pain in the ***
<1> kmh: I don't dual boot.
<0> although i highly dislike the instability of winblows
<0> but that comes with everything as complex as windows
<2> starsky_ : I'm not talkingabout your computer
<5> Hello All
<2> starsky_ : i was talking about new hardware with 3rd party drivers (being available for windows only)
<0> to put it straight: imo the only thing that is better on linux is performance
<0> mostly in the server area
<2> i dunno about that either
<0> mac osx is a joke in my eyes
<1> kmh: Look at http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/lex.html that should help you.. But I am busy so I can't help you.
<1> ok guys. gotta head off... do some work.
<0> one thing
<0> look at that
<0> Unpack the downloaded archive - tar -zxvf CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz
<0> to unzip a file
<0> whats easier...that...or Right Click -> extract files -> ok
<1> yes.. for you Orpheus, if you want that sort of feature (anything like windows) download Ubuntu Linux http://www.ubuntu.com/
<0> but why would i want to use a mimic of windows when i can just use linux?
<0> here i have a question
<5> Anyone here have a Java Secure Socket Extension expernice ?
<0> there is a linux distro
<0> called damn small linux (is that the name) ?
<1> not me xNokia.
<1> yes
<0> k
<0> i liked that one the most
<0> but i heard it was crappy in features
<1> i haven't used it.
<0> what would you suggest is the best distribution for linux?
<0> in your opinion
<0> windows aside
<1> As I suggested Gnu/Linux is not for everyone.
<1> use Ubuntu.
<0> ive used damn small linux
<0> but i want the full linux experience
<1> Ubuntu is said to be good migration for Windows users.
<0> i dont want linux prettied up to look like windows
<0> Is redhat any good?
<1> it has everything you want in Linux + features like that of windows
<1> redhat is ok. core 4
<1> is out
<1> you could use that.
<0> i.e. what do you use/
<1> I use Debian.


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