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<0> http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2006091357202.gif
<1> high
<2> hi everyone.
<3> hutch
<2> :)
<2> kmh: I have a problem in Java.
<2> the problem is with some decryption code I've got.
<4> The problem being he doesn't have source and wants to crack it. :-)
<2> well not exactly.
<2> :)
<4> not....*exactly*....?
<2> i have the source. I did the coding.
<4> This sounds serious.
<2> :)
<2> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fqwhg128.html has the source.
<4> Well, perhaps someday you'll learn how to explain tech problems without coaxing.
<2> :)
<2> I keep getting BadPadding exception while decrypting. :(
<4> Sounds like...
<4> ...bad padding,
<2> yeah it is but I don't see any.
<4> Apparently Java can.
<2> Exception in thread "main" javax.crypto.BadPaddingException: Data must start with zero
<4> Look harder.
<2> :)
<4> Gee...maybe if your data started with zero.
<2> ?
<2> but I have looked into it since 2 days and I can't find anything wrong..
<4> If your data started with zero, you probably wouldn't get an error message that says "data must start with zero".
<2> Just loaded the public key from keystore then encrypted that with secret key, then encrypted that session key with RSA key.
<2> while decrypting, just decrypted the session key using that same RSA key, then decrypted the cipher text with the decrypted session key.
<2> that's the simple logic.
<2> but the logic is only conceptual.. while the damn code is a concrete stuff.. ;-)
<2> I think I need to spend more time..
<3> starsky_ : i have no clue what exactly goes wrong
<2> kmh: thanks.
<2> kmh: that was helpful.
<3> haha
<3> how's that :-P
<2> kmh: I am glued to my monitor.. shh..... ;-)
<4> Try nail polish remover.
<2> :)
<2> do any of you know some Java guru's (need the irc server address and channel).. thanks.
<4> Need someone who will do homework help.
<2> well yeah but I don't need help coding.. Just what's wrong with my code.
<4> "I write code just fine. It doesn't work is the only problem."
<2> :P
<4> The more someone knows about Java the less likely they are to want to do your homework for you.
<4> Hint: debugging is an important part of programming.
<2> I am doing that.
<4> Evidently not.
<5> hey everyone
<4> Let me guess. You're using Eclipse.
<2> yes. it is Eclipse 3.2
<4> And having trouble with JOptionPane.
<2> ?
<5> if anything*
<4> anyway...bedtime.
<5> school tomorrow?
<5> :D
<2> noob bashing is just a plain dumb idea of getting noobs into thinking that they are in Mars. ;-)
<4> Work tomorrow. School thirty yers ago.
<4> s/yers/years
<5> i dont noob bash, im just saying that i wouldnt be the one getting noob bashed in a vb6 channel
<4> Yes, but nobody cares about VB.
<2> vb6 is dead anyway.. vb .net these days.. hehehe..
<5> because i have "1337 \/ |3 ski11z" as people refer to it
<6> Oh, I misread that as people getting bashed *because* they are in the vb6 channel...
<7> tsk. VB6 is far from dead.
<6> So is Cobol...
<4> It isn't actually dead. It just smells bad.
<7> it -ought- to be dead, sure, but there is still vast amounts out there
<2> Smalltalk.
<3> what's next fortran ? algol ?
<5> eh
<6> Lisp! oooo end bracket kills all....
<5> vb.net is vb6 + included ****
<2> Well Python is dead.. heheeh...
<3> Zeekius : lol sounds like java though :-P
<5> stuff that you'd have to do through API in vb6 is native in vb.net
<2> Java #1
<5> but otherwise, there isnt that much of a difference
<5> im currently learning java
<5> and to tell the truth
<2> Java is good language.
<2> :)
<3> python is dead ?
<5> i dont like the fact that i cant create .exe's
<7> Orpheus: err.. full OO, structure exception handling, the CLR.. no.. not much differnace
<6> Yeah, right....
<6> (about python)
<2> Orpheus: u only need .exe's in Winblows.
<5> winblows surp***es all other operating systems imo
<2> ?????
<2> kidding right ?
<3> oh VB finally git full OO ?
<5> well
<5> its a lot better than linux for common use
<5> for performance, no
<2> yeah VB .NET is a part of .NET framework.
<5> but as long as you know how to use the operating system
<5> you'll be fine
<2> we can code OO in it.
<3> .net has nothing to with oo afaik
<5> honestly i dont see why theres so many reasons to complain about windows
<5> microshaft is doing a fine job
<2> .NET is a framework. It has nothing to do OO.
<2> I am saying in VB .NET, we can use OO paradigm
<3> starsky_ : but is full featured
<5> there was a quote i heard once
<2> Microsoft is nothing but a way to capture m***. Every OS in every people's computer.
<3> there's pseudo OO in VB for a long time, but there was no full inheritabce support for instance
<5> "Saying java is nice because it works on all operating systems is like saying anal *** is nice because it works on all genders."
<2> OO is nothing new.. Put Abstraction, Inheritence, Polymorphism in a language.. bang!! you have a OO language.
<5> yes starsky, but what would you rather use to play games, listen to music, and browse the internet...linux, mac osx, or winblows ?
<2> Java works on *most* platforms because the JVM part is written in native language (C).
<3> starsky_ : why point up to 5.0 at least VB didn't have all that
<3> despite being decades old concepts
<2> Orpheus: For gaming, Use winblows.. For all rest, use Gnu/Linux.
<3> crap
<3> why point = my point is
<2> kmh: AFAIK yeah.. vb .net was procedural in nature.
<2> sorry vb 5
<3> starsky_ : it doesn't really matter in which language the vm is written, what matters is availability and performance
<2> But JVM is written in C.
<3> starsky_ : so ?
<3> for all i can it could be written in whatever
<3> can = care
<2> C is native. In that we can directly acess resources and manipulate data structures.. rather than going through another layer of abstraction like Java
<3> darn i'm typing nothing but crap today
<5> C++ is faster than java =)
<5> and it has byte level access
<3> starsky_ : and ?
<5> which turns me on
<2> kmh: and ?????
<3> starsky_ : that's the whole point of java not being native
<2> yes
<3> starsky_ : or rather having one piece of central software (the jvm) to handle all native code
<3> so that from thereon you don't have to bother
<5> but from that you lose a lot of performance
<2> Java = JVM controls everything that is native to an OS.
<5> which, for me is key
<2> sandboxing mechanism ??? Rigns a bell ?
<5> Java compiles into byte code which is loaded into the JVM which talks to the specific computer
<5> but im sure you all knew that
<3> Orpheus : well you loose performance is some aspects but you may gain in others
<2> everything outside JVM is untrusted code.
<5> it doesnt take much common sense to realize if something is a virus or not
<5> kmh: compiler > interpreter
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