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<0> http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2000/jw-1229-traps.html
<0> "<1> why open a browser at all?" - is that a real question?
<0> The most direct and simple answer to that question would be your application has a requirement which specifies it "must open a browser" - Do you know what a requirement is?
<1> yogiudo: accessing the web via java is trivial. Why open a new app to do it?
<0> A requirement states "must open a browser"
<2> most people use Java for real work, not homework or study courses.
<0> You understand user requirements right?
<3> **** users
<1> sure
<1> users generally have no clue what they want
<2> bingo
<1> our job is to teach them (largely)
<1> if it were up to users, nothing would work
<0> Users may or may not be people.
<3> no they're idiots duh!
<0> You dont know what user requirements are. I think you should google "user requirements"
<1> user requirements analysis isn't always correct
<1> sometimes you have to object to them and rewrite
<2> its not a static issue.
<1> that's why you have a *negotiated* list of requirements
<1> that's what the statement of work is
<0> In large corporations with say, a hundred developers you are not in a position to negioate requirements.
<3> hahahahahaa
<1> in a large corporation I would hope that the one who is, is sane
<2> I think I'm stepping out of this "discussion" :P
<1> this is going nowhere
<3> yogiudo who is feeding you this bull****?
<3> i want their head
<1> sabre: it's what they teach them in college these days
<3> ahhh ;)
<0> I've been in development for 6 years.
<0> working, since I left school.
<3> then don't act like a pawn
<0> regardless, there would be plenty of "practical applications" where a browser should be opened.
<3> ya ya i'm off to the owl sanctuary
<3> late
<0> I can tell you with total honesty that when you get some hot shot programmer determining user requirements the application goes through so many revisions that it often dies quickly from code rot.
<0> but hey, we know everything about every application so why would we ask users?
<0> on the bus, or under it.
<1> now you're constructing strawmen
<0> "on the bus, or under it."
<0> project sponsors are sick and tired of wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars for hot shot programmers who know everything.
<1> they're also tired of wasting millions on projects where programmers aren't asked about the requirements
<1> so you wind up with ***hat project managers promising undeliverables
<1> there's a happy balance in between where the ideal is
<0> Lots of projects fail for a variety of reasons. Understanding the need of the application if the first step to success.
<0> if=is
<0> anyways blah blah blah. You might want to open a browser
<1> true, but generally, you would know your platform in that case (although admittedly, that's no excuse to lock a platform in)
<0> I generally follow this practice for anything component size, 1) Can I find it for free? NO -> Can I steal it? NO -> Can I delegate it? NO -> DIY.
<4> Hi
<4> Is there a way to send an int using writeObject without creating an Integer object or putting it inside a cl***??
<4> like
<4> ObjectOutputStream.writeObject(int i);
<4> ?
<5> convert it into a string :P
<4> lol
<5> writeObject("" + int);
<4> mmmmmh
<4> maybe, that could work
<4> What is warez???
<4> why does the channel says no Warez??
<6> hi
<6> I have a question about generics. I have define : cl*** GraphViewer<V extends X, E extends Y>
<6> then, in the body of a method, I would like to do V anInstance = new V();
<6> but i can't
<6> any workaround ?
<7> hi guys
<7> I want to apply undernet's webchat applet to my website
<7> is that possible?
<7> I copied the file directly but doesnt work actually
<7> http://www.undernet.org/webchat.php
<7> this is the link
<8> hi
<8> anybody can explain how i use a Dispatch View, i want p*** arraylist to .jsp. how i use?
<8> can someone help me?
<6> somebody has JGraph Layout pro?
<6> or something to automatically layout a graph made with JGraph
<9> trivia?
<9> what happen to x?
<10> what you going on about now
<4> Hi, does anyone here uses MySQL and use Java to acces databases?
<10> I have done it in the past.
<4> really?
<10> no I'm just lying completely :P
<4> do you think you could help me with something?
<10> just ask your question
<4> My code throws this Exception: java.sql.SQLException: Before Start of result set
<4> could you just tell me what is it about and I will look for the solution
<4> I would like a hint, if you know something
<4> thanx
<10> well that could be anything
<10> u need to actually give the exception error!
<10> java.sql.SQLException is about as broad as u can be
<4> it says
<4> at com.mysql.jdbc.ResultSet.checkRowPos(ResultSet.java:3624)
<10> well that looks pretty self-explainatory to me
<4> at com.mysql.jdbc.ResultSet.getString(ResultSet.java:1762)
<4> really??
<10> first check your sql
<4> I am looking at google, yet I don't really understand
<10> run that sql in the database
<4> the Query??
<10> without any java, this is the first step, ensuring your sql is well-formed
<4> I've done it, it works just fine
<4> :D
<10> paste your code into url in the topic
<4> ok
<10> tbh a quick google of the error will probably put you on your way...but never mind
<4> wait
<4> I found it!!!!
<4> anyway
<4> Thanx for your time
<4> :D
<10> heh np
<11> morning
<12> io
<10> morning jottinger.
<4> Morning
<13> in Visual Studio MS handles the SOAP serialization etc. for creating web services; even generates the WSDL. How complicated is it in Java
<10> similarly very simple
<13> can you recommend an article/book
<10> when u use something like axis
<10> take a look at http://ws.apache.org/axis/
<13> thanks
<13> just flattened a machine and put solaris 10 on it, wanted to make a web service
<10> its what we use here.
<13> ah nice
<13> handles the SOAP serialization and everything?
<4> solaris 10 looks nice
<4> and now, it's open source, isn't it?
<13> JDS isn't bad, but from what I read its the new features in the kernel that rocks
<13> yeah OpenSolaris.org
<13> containers
<13> self healing kernel
<13> added a lot to it
<4> I was planning on buying the full version, It's quite inexpensive
<13> of Solaris? Free
<13> on sun.com
<13> dvd or cd isos and the companion cd
<13> no cost
<13> announced that about six months ago
<4> yes, it's free if you download it
<4> but I have no broadband
<13> ah, yeah they charge ya for the media
<4> so I'll py for the shipping
<13> you have a DVD ROM and a computer that can boot from it? or you need CDs
<4> DVD _
<13> I still have Solaris 10 ISO DVD on my machine, if I set you up an ftp would you download it, or you need to receive it in mail
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