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<0> hi <1> Hello <2> ullo ppl <2> anyone know how to iterate a multi-dimensional array using for-each syntax? <2> duh nm, sorted it ;x <3> java does not have multi-dimensional arrays. <2> sorry, *array of arrays <4> hello! i want the window who has focus, answer key press unless what widget has the focus (like delphi keyPreview). please, anyone would help to code this? (Eclipse/SWT) <3> xvatx: wahaha, SOL, baby, SOL <5> hey guys <5> I wonder something <5> we java programmers, at least the ones being pure object developer, tend to use the collection framework each time we have objects to regroup <5> however, suppose you want to put integers in a collection.. the overhead to use the Integer object and put that in say, in a List, is considerable <5> and since we now have auto-boxing, I think it will mislead newcomers even more <5> but my question is.. we tend to use implementation of collection interfaces based on a Hash or Tree (red-black, AVL) when we know we want to lookup without performing a linear search <5> because a tree runs in O( log(n) ) instead of O( n )
<5> however, I would like to run tests to see at what amount (n) of objects does the hash or tree lookup are really more efficient (in pratice ) <6> you're saying collections are backed by an interative search? <5> I know that some collegues replaced all their collection implementation by simple arrays and they noticed a significant performance boost <5> I'm saying that collection implementations, based on a hash table or a tree <6> the implementation of a collection isn't necessarily trivial even though it looks like an array <5> runs in O( 1 ) or O( log(n) ) and give the impression, at least in theory, that they runs alot faster to locate, insert, delete objects from them <5> but that in practice it seems that significant overhead is observed compared to simple linear search ( O(n) ) in arrays <5> well, for the Set interface, we have HashSet (backed up by a hashtable ( O(1) ), TreeSet (backed up by a TreeMap, which is backed up a Red-Black tree ( O( log(n) ) ) <6> could be. exposing an array may sacrifice portability too. <5> for the Map interface, we have HashMap and TreeMap (same things) <6> plus memory performance gains isn't usually a bottleneck in a large application <5> List, we have ArrayList, backed up an array ( O( n ) ) and LinkedList ( O( n ) ) <5> I wonder how exposing an array may affect portability <5> I'm exclusively talking about processor performance, not memory performance <6> serialization for example. if you change the signature of a member variable you have to version the object. wrapping the contents makes it easier. <5> and, putting bytes in a collection involves using the Byte object <5> and an object in java have a minimum memory footprint <5> so you use 8 bits for your info, but x bits for the objet footprint, so even if the memoery usag isn't really an issue, it sounds stupid anyway <6> your suggestion is interesting, don't get me wrong <6> most of the performance bottlenecks i see are scale issues and collections are the least of my worries. <5> I'm just saying that using the collection framework to store everything, as a reflex, may be a bad idea <5> and that even me, I wasn't using arrays for years, and I recently started back <5> but for collections of say, 10000 objects, If I have frequent lookup, insert and deletes, I would definitively use a collection framework implementation, like a hash or a tree <5> but for a collection of 100 elelments, where I would simply perform lookups <5> I'm not sure a collection implementation would be that faster <5> and for serialization, I never use java serialization specifically because of this version issue <5> I use xml serialization, or I write code that serialize myself <5> but, some collegues replaced their code using stricly collections with arrays <5> and they noticied a significant performance boost <6> where do you work? <5> Convera <5> why? <6> you seem to place much value on speed over portability and migration. i'm curious how your products scale. <5> no <5> portability I don't agree this is an issue with array <5> migration, it may because i'm not using interfaces, yhes <5> but arrays are 100% portable in java <6> how does your code work with a CORBA ORB? <5> I'm not using Corba <5> and when doing remote stuff, I use web services <5> and web services are portable accross languages (I mean, you dont know what piece of code will call your services)and the only thing you can expose are <5> primitive types and arrays <6> web services are usually way slower than CORBA. <5> in fact, the main reason I started using arrays back is because of web services <5> but it really depends, I tend to concentrate on how fine-grained are my services <5> If I send 1000 objects to be treated <5> and I call a service, the web service impl overhead is not significant <6> serialization is where you pay the price. <5> except for serialization / deserialzation, yes.. <5> hum <6> it adds up quickly if you make the call often <5> I must admit that <6> again i'm not disagreeing with you <5> my code is "web service" compliant (using primitive type, not putting any logic in my business model cl***es, having an empty constructor) etc <5> but i'm not aware of all the issues on performance when actually writing remote code <6> i'm just curious about your environment. why you've made these choices. i'd sacrifice some performance for portability and scalability anytime <5> but really, I don't know, it should be possible to p*** large volume of data <5> with webservices <5> by transfering it in raw data (bytes) <5> like, take the array, serialize it as a byte stream, send it over <6> it's definitely possible, just expensive.
<5> in a CDATA[], for example <5> and that shouldn't be expensive <5> but still <5> I would too, but I'm still disagreeing that using arrays affects portability <5> for scalibity, flexibility, extensibility, yes you are right <5> but not portability <5> I dont see the point <6> you're exposing the type <6> if you want to send something else or change the type the code sees it <5> yes, but i'm not serialializing with a ObjectInput/OuputStream <5> but the same thing apply <5> if you expose the List interface for example <5> and later you want a Set <5> or a Map <6> if you're sending some kind of list, you usually don't need to change the wrapper. you can play with the data underneath. <6> for example, most entity beans use the Collection interface for this reason. <5> Collection is ok <5> to abstract the collection type (list, set, map) <5> but you usuablly want methods right from the Map or List interface depending on what you do <5> if you transfer a simple Collection, your code would have to cast anyway and that's not really clean <5> and personally, if you are talking about EJB 2.x, I really hate this creation <5> EJB 3.0 is another thing, since most problems have been adressed now <5> (Gavin King, the founder of hibernate, influenced the spec alot) <7> I have a JPanel with a null layout, so all the components of that panel have setLocation and setSize. 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