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<0> xtravaga
<1> hey rob
<2> if I want to distribute a java app on a USB stick...and not require JRE on the computer..will a wrapper help me? or is there another way to incorporate a jvm in the app so I dont need it on the host computer?
<1> distribute the JVM on the USB stick
<1> launch the app using a batch file
<2> I understand
<2> but then it must be installed before the app can be used?
<1> not neccessary
<1> just copy the JRE folder
<1> after installing the JRE on your PC
<2> oh ok
<2> and point to it somewhere in the program?
<1> if the jre folder and the app jar file are in the same folder, you can put a batch file in that folder and launch your app like this, ./jre/bin/java -cp myapp.jar
<1> ./jre/bin/java -jar myapp.jar
<2> very good idea, very good
<2> but how big is the jre?



<1> 20 megs?
<2> k good enough
<2> thank you :)
<1> nope
<1> jre 5.0 is 70 megs
<1> *gulp*
<1> there are EOL jres(1.2) whcih are less than 20 Megs
<1> i wouldnt recommend them though
<2> hmm what is EOL?
<0> end of life
<0> there will be no updates for them
<0> but if you want a small jre you can get it anyway
<0> if your application doesn't use any 1.2+ methods
<3> test
<0> test
<2> anyone tried the aes_i586 module on SuSE?
<2> sorry wrong chan
<4> my J2ME wireless toolkit shows error when I try to Run any proggy " cannot open socket for LIME events on port port 1093"
<4> what is wrong there
<5> dunno
<5> google it
<5> the error message
<4> nothing comes with that
<4> but the error is windows error code 10061
<4> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/winsock/winsock/windows_sockets_error_codes_2.asp?FRAME=true
<0> google returns results
<0> http://www.google.nl/search?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&ie=UTF-8&q=cannot+open+socket+for+LIME+events
<0> so why did you say google didn't find anything/
<4> i put the entire string :(
<0> do you have antivirus software running
<0> try turning it off for a minute
<0> firewall can also be the problem
<4> yeah got both NAV & norton firewall running
<4> also just added a LANcard, but using dial-up
<6> its the antivirus software
<4> thanks :):):)
<4> it worked
<4> wohoooooooo
<4> :D
<5> Blue_Orb: and the best channel is....
<5> ;)
<4> of course here :D
<4> i tried it at dal.net, but nobody answered there
<4> prolly sleeping
<4> hehe
<5> anyone ready to play my java game against me?:)
<4> what java game :)
<0> applet?
<5> .jar swing/java2d/sockets
<5> http://bsn-61-56-225.dial-up.dsl.siol.net/netlines-homepage/
<5> up to date source is there too
<5> in case you dont trust me
<5> if ready, connect to my ip
<4> let me put my firewall ON, just in case :D
<5> rather set security manager to deny my jar to write to your disk ;)
<0> your game crashed
<5> Rob_uknow: really?:(
<0> it gives host unknown
<7> no jws?
<0> but I didn't run it in the console at first
<0> so didn't see no error message



<5> bsn-61-56-225.dial-up.dsl.siol.net
<5> no http or anything:P
<5> Rob_uknow: i found sth interesting:(
<8> do you know any simplier examples than ones on sun site, it's way of showing how listeners works requires knowledge of advanced features, I'm looking for ones which are included in simple applet
<8> ?
<5> MatrixEVT: i dont understand why you start with applet
<5> applets arent so damn simple
<8> I know, but I'm awere that to let someone understand it doesn't need to make applet which is very "beutiful" and "useful"
<8> i just need to drag a point or a figure in a screen
<8> without displaying coordinates
<8> nice borders, interface etc
<8> ;)
<0> you want to visually design your applet?
<8> no
<8> I don't
<8> i'm saying that examples are too difficult
<8> a bit
<8> ;)
<0> you need to have basic skills first
<8> because they have lots of things I don't need
<0> its wise to start reading a book on java
<0> learn all the basics
<8> I was just asking for any other tutorials
<8> which are not so advanced
<8> e g http://www.realapplets.com/tutorial/index.html
<0> try Thinking in Java
<0> its a good book www.mindview.net
<0> it teaches events
<8> but it doesn't have all the cases
<0> no need
<0> if you understand the concept
<0> its the same everytime
<0> actionListener, Itemlistener, etc
<0> they all work according the same concept
<0> the apidocs show you what listeners you can add to certain components
<0> and that events there are
<0> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/ winhelpversion: http://javadocs.planetmirror.com/javadoce.html
<8> probably but there always are some simple diffrences which are not so obvious
<0> no no
<8> and are known though the practic
<0> its the same concept
<8> thanks
<0> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/components/components.html
<0> nice site
<0> just click on a component
<8> ok
<8> thanks
<0> and you see some tutorials
<8> :)
<5> Rob_uknow: thanx for pointing me to another bug:)
<0> yw
<5> Rob_uknow: i wonder.. how fast should i deselect.. if clicked twice?
<5> that's not bug
<5> if mouse keeps being pressed, it is reported more than once?
<5> but of course i was calculating stuff wrong
<5> Rob_uknow: perhaps ready for another try?:P
<0> watching tv
<5> okey:)
<9> Is there a way to ***ign the name of a cl*** to a variable, then later on create an object of that cl*** by using that variable as the cl***name?
<5> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/reflect/index.html
<0> reflection
<9> geez, is it complicated?
<5> tdondich: i pasted you link to tutorial, see for yourself
<9> I see. not really.
<9> thanks wolfey
<0> Cl*** b = Button.cl***;
<5> thank Sun:)
<0> c.newInstance();
<5> b.newInstance() ?
<0> or use Button b = (Button) Cl***.forName("java.awt.Button").newInstance()
<0> yes
<0> newInstance() returns a new instance of the cl***
<0> its like doing Button b = new Button();


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