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<0> tombraider by any chance?
<1> Clackwell tomeraider... it is a file format, commonly used for large documents.
<1> like the offline version Wikipedia.
<0> never heard of it.
<1> oh
<0> this place limits your chances to find something, as opposed to google.
<0> smsie: http://www.sun.com/software/javaenterprisesystem/integration_suite/
<0> sounds horrible ;)
<0> "this does everything you would possibly need." "oh yeah? must...buy....<drool>"
<2> Clackwell: I'm basically employed to use SBYN. This is what Sun have done with it. SBYN ****s *hard*, I find it hard to imagine that Sun haven't done anything to improve it :)
<0> aha, yeah
<2> Clackwell: in fairness, it makes some stuff trivially easy (talking to Oracle for example). It makes other stuff 100 times harder than it needs to be
<0> yeah, good engineers are hard to find.
<0> those constantly considering and valuing ease of use.
<2> I've yet to persuade SBYN to allow me to use a jar I've written myself. The mechanism exists, but either doesn't work or (more likely) is so obfuscated it's impossible to get to work
<0> i don't envy you for your job.
<2> *shrug* it pays well, and I have a fair amount of autonomy
<0> at least i get to work with our own stuff and can complain and bitch about the complexity - and have it improved.
<2> some kind of index of what's on the 10 CDs would help
<2> "please insert the CD with 'eGate.sar'"
<2> you'd *think* it would be on the CD marked "eGate for Windows"
<2> but no, it's on the CD marked "products CD1"
<2> which you can only find by putting CDs in one at a time until you get to the right one
<2> I think I'm gonna need more RAM in this box if I'm going to play with this. No way will 768M be enough...
<0> oh, which reminds me, i need to download a warez iso image of delphi 7 - since borland ran out of replacement kits and are not providing such images for their customers in need. ;>
<0> (they were quick to ship the wrong media kit, however....)
<3> ./kick Clackwell warez request
<3> :)
<2> hmm...besides not being clear about which CXD you need, Sun actually have improved the installation process a bit
<0> ;)
<2> of course, this wouldn't be hard
<2> I believe they're replaced the (absolutely dreadful) JMS implementation with the Sun one too, which should be nice
<2> screw this...more RAM required...
<4> Hey, Im wondering if anyone knows how to get the Window's PATH value inside a Java app. Im searching the web, but im only getting installations instructions for java
<5> Kaharas: see System cl***
<2> at least the installer is a LOT nicer
<2> still bloody slow though
<2> ah well, a gig of ram goodness, bumping this system to 1.5G should help :)
<2> wolfeMOUSE_PRESSED is an event, as is MOUSE_RELEASED. You should be able to catch the first. MOUSE_CLICKED implies that both have happened
<6> smsie: well im using mouse pressed
<2> then it should fire when the button is pressed. When it is released is irrelevant
<2> there's also MOUSE_EXITED, which might help you detect if the mouse isn't there any more
<2> if it's all happening too fast, I don't know how you can fix that. Get a faster machine maybe?
<2> not really a helpful option though
<6> i still think i have faster than average user
<6> oh
<6> looks like bug... it says Clearing selection:P
<6> okey!;)
<7> hello, could you tell me the name of a good reference book about java?
<6> Java 2 Bible, Thinking in Java, Java Practical Guide for Programmers
<6> ahh reference
<2> Ap_: what do you men by "reference" exactly?
<6> dunno
<6> i dont do reference
<6> :P
<6> api is my reference
<2> the API docs are usually the main point of reference http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/
<2> or for whatever version you require instead of 1.5
<6> good textbooks (NOT REFERENCE) Java 2 Bible, Thinking in Java, Java Practical Guide for Programmers
<2> Java in a Nutshell is okay
<2> I like the Java Cookbook
<6> smsie: yeah i know nutshell
<2> I must get a copy of Thinking in Java
<6> i see no advantage over google.
<2> wolfey: thre's something about having a dead tree. Google has the same information (and more), but it's just not the same
<7> ah thanks
<6> hell sun java tutorial is best reference ;
<6> :))
<2> wolfey: besides, I have a manager who happily signs for me to order books. I may as well get the books :)
<6> good smsie
<2> I have a fair number of books on the shelf in work now. THey are handy to have
<2> the ORA "pocket guides" are useful to own
<2> nothing in them you can't find from google, but still handy to have
<2> I try to keep it to under 100/mo for book buying, and he seems not to mind :)
<2> they *really* need to get a faster installer
<2> 2 hours so far...
<2> 3.4G
<2> ah, but it has finished it claims
<5> smsie: what are you installing?
<2> gilead: CAPS
<2> it *is* a lot easier to install than ICAN was
<2> it's still a lot of effort though
<6> caps'
<6> ?
<2> I could probably eat a handful of magnetic matieral and defecate a better installation process than ICAN's
<2> wolfey: it's Sun's new (well, they bought it from SeeBeyond) enterprise integration suite
<6> integration? mmm
<2> middleware
<6> i have MSCP friends.. is there an alternative to Microsoft SharePoint ?
<6> they brag only M$ can do it
<2> many alternatives
<6> okey, one good enough for them spoiled ones?
<2> depends what they need to do
<8> why do you need sharepoint?
<6> Rob_uknow: i dont... but they claim they need it for business
<6> that it so user and admin friendly
<6> lk
<8> to do what?
<6> like no open source thing
<6> business portals
<8> its just to host some sites
<2> because oipen source can't be easy?
<8> allow sharing information between those sites
<8> it offers a document manager
<8> its really simple software
<8> sharepoint will probably be replaced by microsoft's cms
<2> if they like sharepoint, just keep using sharepoint
<8> according to some micrrosoft people I talked to
<6> okey thanx to you both
<6> i wondered for some time
<2> hmm, CAPS is also lighter on resource
<2> wonder how they managed that?
<6> good algorithms?
<2> nah
<8> wolfey, there is this scarab thing
<2> it's not about algorithms
<2> it's about resource management
<8> that is opensource, it offers more or less the same functionality
<2> if all you want to do is share documents, there are any number of open source and commercial CMS tools out there
<2> literally thousands of them
<8> there is the Sun java portal system
<8> and Jahia
<8> wolfey
<6> thank you... looking it up
<2> hmm, slightly more complex server management
<2> although that's not necessarily a bad thing
<2> it looks more powerful and useful
<8> what?
<2> sorry, musing out loud
<8> yeah
<8> but what product are you talking about?
<2> ah, caps still
<9> could you look at http://fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~kfsz/p.htm and tell me why some circles aren't drawn fully although I used getWidth and getHeight?
<8> what should it do?
<9> it should draw circle with random ray
<9> and random color
<9> in the center of the winndow
<8> but?
<8> it draws at random points
<8> everytime I refresh the applet
<9> wait ...
<8> the problem what I see is that your applet size is too small
<9> could you look to the source at http://fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~kfsz/RandomCircles.java?
<9> what does it mean?
<8> there is no problem with the code
<9> so?
<8> so?
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