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<0> in my mind, that means that an absolutist view on things means that your DFSG compliant java gets -less- exposure
<1> morning.
<2> javaq_: shhh
<3> moin deano
<1> javaq_ no more Java-test bots please! I imagine you'll get banned if its seen again
<0> While I havn't read the relevant flamewar, I ***ume there are still bits of the license that are questionable?
<4> Deano: that's a trivia
<2> wlfshmn: primarily the bit about distributing whole, and the bit about no competitors
<4> a java trivia
<1> yes I am aware
<2> javaq_: makes no difference
<4> won't happen again
<2> don't use it here again
<4> i swear
<0> jottinger: the former I seem to recall having been answered verbally by sun atleast
<0> jottinger: although I can see debian wanting that in writing
<2> right
<2> "We've read what you say is the intent, but the actual license doesn't clarify that"
<0> the later, is it a matter of not allowing shipping competitors, or not allowing for example the sun vm to run a non-sun cl***path?
<2> wlfshmn: the reality is the latter
<0> that is more bothersome..
<0> jaxp and the likes for example
<2> http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=40819
<2> hopefully I'm not jumping over a line there
<3> that "what do you think?" bit reminds me of the "do you want to know more?" in starship troopers.
<2> haha
<2> of course
<2> apart from that...
<2> hey talios
<2> talios: check TSS, eh
<2> Clackwell is keeping his opinion to himself
<0> apart from that I think you are a loon and should be locked up for good! But the article seems good. ;)
<2> wlfshmn: haha
<5> am about to scream?
<5> jottinger: which article in particle? ajax advertising or is tim bray making ludicrous statements?
<2> both
<2> although the ajax one is more questionable for me :)
<5> you advert media whore
<2> I tried to explain why it was relevant outside of media producers :(
<2> what I couldn't put in the article was that if impressions were judged differently, maybe - MAYBE - TSS could use AJAX for content delivery
<2> but as it stands now, there's no way we can update to be somewhat modern
<2> not unless you want to start paying for access
<0> jottinger: we (as in I, which is the complete set of people that matter) don't. ;)
<2> I don't either
<5> could adds be rotated in an ajaxy partial-page-load along with whatever-other ajaxy partial page loads you would do in a new manner? an ajaxy updated add is still an impression, right?
<2> nope
<2> it *can* be, but that would fail an audit
<1> surely the ajax app should be intelligent enough to logically conclude what is an impression, and what is not
<2> Deano: it's not about the app
<2> it's about the backend. There are actual rules to gauging an impression.
<2> You can deliver a rotating set of ads to the client, but have only one *impression*
<2> even if you count ten of them, they'd fail audit
<1> hm
<2> and if it would fail audit, it don't count
<1> well its obvious the term 'impression' needs to be re-configured to count for Ajax style sites.
<2> indeed
<1> not something I've ever had to deal with, fortunately
<5> jottinger: are there any rules around say advertising in 100% flash based sites? wouldn't that probably have similar problems? (not that I've seen any full-flash-sites with adverts thou)
<2> Well, it's a growing problem
<2> talios: I don't know
<2> the reason the problem is "growing" is because users - particularly tech-aware users - want those features
<2> and those features can affect the bottom line, which will negatively affect access to those features
<0> 100% flash sites tend to be campaign sites themselves though. I don't think I've seen one with regular adds in them
<0> and by god, I hate those things
<5> heh
<0> I wish they would implement HTTP FACE_STAB
<1> lol
<6> evenin guys!!!
<2> beautiful story
<2> O. Henry was a wonderful writer
<7> <imput name="from" type="button" onclick="href">
<7> please corect code ...
<7> pls
<8> you're too funny
<7> what?!
<9> webmasters: this channel is unrelated to web development
<7> :(
<9> webmasters: also, your mistake is trivial of course
<9> he'd have problematic imput with this code ;)
<10> salam
<11> mmmm
<8> **** salam
<2> hey tmbg
<2> where you been, man
<11> jottinger: BUSY
<11> jottinger: :D
<11> jottinger: check this out
<11> jottinger: http://www.z-toys.com/megasquirt/images/runningbetter_noload.png
<2> VERY GOOD! (Now what the heck am I looking at?)
<11> heheh
<11> datalog from the car
<11> I have the new ECU in it
<2> oh
<2> well, that makes more sense
<2> (not really, but I'm willing to play along)
<11> :P
<11> idea keeps locking up
<11> on this one particular test case :(
<2> :(
<11> we have a deadline friday
<11> yay
<2> you gonna make it?
<11> hell no
<2> haha
<12> (y)
<13> hello, i'm getting an "package java.util.regexec does not exist" error when i try to compile
<1> add it to the import statements in your java file.
<1> or the jar with this package in ut is not in the cl*** path
<13> i did
<13> import java.util.regexec.Scanner;
<13> how can i check my cl***path, i installed java using rpm packages . THe location is /usr/java
<13> i did included this in my /etc/profile export PATH=/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_01/bin:$PATH
<13> export JAVA_HOME="/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_01"
<13> export CL***PATH=.:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_01
<1> this is all googleable, as was your first question.
<13> thanks
<14> can someone please help me with a regular expression, how can I in a String take away everythin up to and including the first [space] character??
<15> Tamiiiir: I wouldn't mess with regexps, just use String.split();
<15> or, for example, substring(). The String cl*** has quite some powerfull options for manipulation (indexOf(), split(), etc.).
<15> besides; if you wish to "take everything away, including the space" I wouldn't bother, just set the value to null and let the Java garbage man handle it ;-)
<14> thanks lion-o
<14> but if i have a String, and I dont know its length or exact value, how can I take away everything after the first space?
<15> Tamiiiir: you can use indexOf(" "); which will return the location of the first discovered space.
<14> oh, thanks!!
<15> from the top of my mind: indexOf(" ); for beginning to end, and lastIndexOf(" "); for... yeah, the end to the beginning. More info can be grabbed from the API docs.
<15> amazing.. it seems I was right 8)
<14> indeed you were right...
<14> I am making sort of a webserver.... so the cl*** extends Thread..... so while the ServerSocket is listening, can it receive two calls at the same time??
<16> it never needs to
<16> when you recieve a connection, you fork a new thread to handle it
<16> the original is still there listening for connections
<8> even with the soon to be new constitutional ammendment? :Z
<17> sabre: .uk
<8> ah maybe marriage's sanctity is unviolated there..congrats!
<16> what amendment?
<8> to ban gay marriages...it won't p***
<16> oh
<16> well, I'm *fairly* sure that Russ is male, and married a female
<16> so I don't think that applies here
<8> joking...my sincere apologies Russ
<17> There were more people registering civil partnerships than weddings, it seemed, when we booked the registry office
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