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<0> Can someone help me with a trust manager problem?
<0> I am trying to perform an SSL request to a web server with a Self-Signed key, so I would like to disable the certificate validation for an example program.
<0> I cannot seem to get it to work.
<1> that is unlikely to work since its how ssl works. It should be possible however to ignore the "untrusted" certificate or simply add it as trusted.
<2> you should also be able to say "Don't validate this certificate" as an option
<2> though I've not used Javas web request stuff
<0> Asriel: Thanks for the input. I just found an example of ignoring the certificate validation. Thanks!!!
<3> rhowe are you starving to death yet?
<4> is there a swing or awt element which wuold allow web pages to be loaded into it?
<4> i basically need browser functionality within a java app
<5> dave-e: heh, I bought some stuff he wouldn't eat
<6> whodis: I don't know of any full webbrowsers, but there most certianly are html rendering controlls around
<4> do they handle javascript?
<6> only jrex, as far as I know, and that isn't a pure java library (it wrapps gecko I bleieve)
<3> rhowe ah, good plan... :)
<3> say hi from me too btw :P



<7> hu8
<7> hi
<7> any java programmer ?
<6> No. We are all Indonesians interested in geography.
<7> :))
<8> Selamat pagi wlfshmn.
<6> Selamat petang, Deano
<8> heh we'll resort to that more often.
<6> Well, people who ask stupid questions get stupid answers ;)
<4> is an Entity Bean considered a realization of the "Data Access Object" pattern ?
<3> What does it matter?
<3> If it does what it needs to...
<6> Becaseu his professor want's to know ,)
<9> olmert is the most stupid israelian leader ever
<8> useful
<6> hit-and-run political arguments.. must b e anew trend
<10> that's what terrorists do best
<10> it's not new though..they've been doing it for 30 years
<11> israelian?
<11> I think that invalidates the claim right there
<11> whodis: no
<6> 30 years?
<10> yes, hellzballz has been around for nearly 30 years doing the same thing
<6> he, jaafar was Lebaneese ;)
<11> I think Israel is entirely justified, myself
<4> my professor? actually i've been out of college for 3 years and am reading j2ee design patterns
<11> I'm biased, but holy crap
<4> re: is an Entity Bean considered a realization of the "Data Access Object" pattern ?
<10> of course they are jottinger
<11> whodis: then you know the answer is no
<4> jottinger: it sure sounds like it though
<11> why?
<11> the only dao-like feature would be the home interface
<11> but it's a piss-poor dao
<4> "a component which provides a common interface between the application and one or more data storage devices, such as a database"
<4> the ejb developer doesn't access the db directly with cmp, rather he uses an object to do it, which is the entity bean
<11> whodis: note that the "common interface" is not correct
<4> hmm ... i guess i need to read further then
<11> whodis: Yes, but a DAO normally abstracts the persistence store away, which an EJB doesn't do very well
<4> i see
<11> whodis: a lot of people use a DAO to access old-style EJBs
<11> and new-style EJBs do too, except the "DAO" turns out to be a session bean
<4> i see
<4> man i gotta learn this stuff so i can fake my through an interview
<6> ...
<4> or not fake, but convince the itnerviewer i have expereince with this shti
<2> or you could, you know, actually learning so you *know* it
<4> *stuff
<2> rather than lying through an interview and getting fired later on
<4> well, that's the long term goal
<4> i want to know it, but if i give it enough time to become an expert it might be years
<4> and i want out of my current job withint *months*
<4> later
<10> coming soon to your company :)
<2> can normally spot them at interview, luckily
<12> "I actually use this as a weeder question now. If they claim expertise at Design Patterns, and they can ONLY name the Singleton pattern, then they will ONLY work at some other company."
<12> http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/singleton-stupid.html
<13> ANyone have any opinion on the best java libraries that would allow you to print a PDF file that already exists?
<13> I want to print this file without any gui interface
<12> icenyne: which file?



<13> any given PDF file
<12> icenyne: what os?`
<12> there is probably no "best", as you probably already have seen at google.
<12> look at jpedal or create a solution adapted for the common platforms, which is easy to adapt to other platforms, should the need arise.
<12> besides - there may be more than just one printer. there may be none, too.
<12> the acrobat reader executable accepts several parameters.
<13> yeah i dont want the person to have to open the file to print it. id like it to print to the defualt printer. unfortunately i am using SWT and all the stuff ive seen for choosing a printer is in AWT and id like not to mix and match
<12> you mentioned two separate issues.
<12> make up your mind which one to tackle in which order.
<13> oh the first and foremost issue is printing to the default printer without any gui interface
<12> i'd do the acrobat reader dance instead of incorporating a third party lib like jpedal, as i expect integrating a lib to be more work.
<13> is there anyway to open a file in acrobat reader from the java cl*** without any third party libraries?
<12> [17:31] <12> the acrobat reader executable accepts several parameters.
<13> yep caught that, youre talking about the javascript params right?
<12> no, i am talking about an executable which accepts parameters, just like "ls" apcepts parameters, and notepad.exe and cmd.exe and all the other executables out there.
<13> i see. where can i find out info about the paramaters that are allowed?
<12> icenyne: google?
<12> the executable name is AcroRd32.exe on windows.
<12> expect those parameters to have changed throughout various acrobat reader versions.
<12> you can also poke around in the executable itself in hope to find documented and undocumented switches, which might make google searches a bit more directed.
<13> Is there anyway to find the location(full path) of an installed application via the standard Java cl***es?
<14> icenyne: I'm not sure exactly, but I would imagine if that's possible, it would be done via the Cl***Loader. Check the API docs for that cl***.
<11> hey resonator
<11> you ever done anything with javaspaces?
<14> Nossir.
<11> well you **** then
<14> Never heard of it, actually.
<14> Yes, I know.
<11> heh
<11> I'm watching a Rush DVD
<11> It's amazing how many air drummers there are at Rush concerts
<14> That guy's drum solo is mind boggling
<14> I dunno his name, but I've seen it several times
<11> yeah
<11> whole band is that way
<14> Yep, they're definitely talented.
<11> BRB
<14> ok
<11> I love windows soooo much
<14> Doesn't everyone!?
<11> XDCMP broke
<11> Shut it down, and you get to reboot to get it running again
<11> logical
<14> Oh this is stupid. I got a memory upgrade for my work laptop and I'm not allowed to install it myself. I have to open a case with IT and have them come do it. *blank stare*
<11> haha
<11> see, I'm more likely to accidentally install it myself
<14> Screw that.
<11> "I tripped and..."
<15> Resonator: why did YOU get the ram then ?
<15> should be delivered to IT dept.
<14> Our group orders the part, part comes to person that ordered it, then they're supposed to open a case to IT to come pick up the machine and the memory to do the installation.
<14> Moot point anyway, I just slapped it in there myself.
<15> tomorrow your desk will be cleaned out and email account closed because of a very unhappy IT manager who didnt have anything better to do
<14> Oh well! :P
<16> heyhey, If I have a JPanel in a BorderLayout South position, is there any way to indicate components (like buttons) are not visible due to frame size other than wrapping the JPanel in a scroll?
<11> hmm
<11> Spaces looks really.. interesting as a way to use an OODB without the "DB" part
<14> Meh, it would help if I'd enabled high memory support in Linux.
<6> jottinger: not exactly quick on the uptake on the ajax4jsf release ;)
<11> wlfshmn: ?
<6> jottinger: tss "news" ;)
<11> what about it?
<11> I'm not sure what I'm looking for
<6> nothing really, just interesting to see "news" release for stuff you've been implmenting the last week ;)
<11> you're using ajax4jsf?
<6> I'm playing with it, yes
<11> ah, cool
<11> they submitted the announcement over the last few days
<11> and I was on vacation
<6> I'm just doing some partial page updates for which it works nicely


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