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<0> but as you wish:)
<0> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/threads/lifecycle.html
<1> :)
<1> but i must
<1> i need to learn java as quickly as possible
<1> what kind of XUL plugins/utilities would you recomend for me to use?
<0> not my area of expertise:(
<2> where i can find a java-script to add register-login to my site ?
<3> Not here.
<2> to create database..
<4> Paschalis: I think you're confusing java with javascript.
<2> hm.. maybe :( ..
<5> oki, i've made a program that can draw lines, but whats the command for circles that draw by mouseclicks???
<6> e^lnx: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=java+mouse+click&btnG=Google+Search
<5> hmm
<7> hello
<0> hello
<7> Loading Java Applet failed?
<7> why?
<7> <applet code="HelloWorld.cl***">
<8> http://lakeaccess.org/cl***es/JavaTrouble.html
<8> Oh, you're writing applets.
<8> Applets predate 2000, don't bother with those anymore.
<0> MatrixEVT: well try to open http://...HelloWorld.cl***, relative to page URL
<8> JWS is where it's at, baby.
<0> rickety: well you can also use applet instead of flash;)
<9> rickety : Sometimes it makes sense to make an applet.
<10> wolfey what exception was thrown?
<10> see the java consol
<0> calchas: MatrixEVT
<9> ah, two minds one thought
<7> thanks
<8> wolfey: Yes, but flash works on more computers.
<8> teralaser: When is that?
<0> rickety: i would consider both applet and web start.. applet for one time user, webstart for regular one... both to communicate to RMI host on same ip
<10> wolfey did you write the applet?
<0> calchas: 19:56 < MatrixEVT> Loading Java Applet failed?
<0> 19:56 < MatrixEVT> why?
<0> 19:56 < MatrixEVT> <applet code="HelloWorld.cl***">
<9> when the applet somehow works as an integral part of your webpage.
<10> ok
<8> wolfey: I'd prefer HTML.
<0> i hate web apps... rich gui is way better
<9> Granted , often there are better tools for that (web 2.0 / AJAX )
<10> MatrixEVT What exception
<0> i hate all the damn HTML forms
<0> submiting them over and over
<8> Most rich guis are written badly. HTML forms, oddly enough, often seem to be written better.
<8> You can do good GUI in both.
<8> Applets crash browsers in ways that Flash doesn't.
<0> rickety: well basicly you can do things many ways. you just need to know which one suits you most
<8> Applets have compatibility issues that Flash doesn't.
<9> Flash works from Linux ?
<0> yes teralaser
<8> teralaser: Yes.
<9> ok
<8> The JRE is more than 20 times the download size of the Flash runtime.
<10> earth to MatrixEVT
<0> writing anything not trivial in flash is nigthmare
<9> heh
<8> wolfey: Flash Earth exists apparently, google earth written in Flash.
<8> If you generally have a clue as to what you're doing, programming language isn't that relevant.
<0> rickety: well i do agree flash + dynamic content is nice way to do it
<0> i read how it is done, didnt try it though
<8> So the only reason for applets is that you don't want to rewrite your JWS app to be Flash or AJAX.
<8> That's considering the developer to be more important than the user, which is backwards.
<0> definetly.
<9> There is another reason for using jws / applets
<0> well better develop to work hard for some time than for each user to work hard ALL the time
<9> You can reuse your API on your server
<0> developer not develop
<8> teralaser: You can communicate to the same server program from JWS or Flash.
<0> rickety: does flash do sockets too? or just http?
<10> MatrixEVT What exception was thrown, look in the console
<7> sorry
<9> Flash has a server ?
<7> for my absence
<7> ;
<7> )
<0> flash can display dynamic web pages and use them as input variables for animation
<8> wolfey: Dunno, but http works over sockets..
<0> yes rickety
<10> so what's the answer?
<7> it was compiled well
<10> did you test it in the appletviewer ?
<7> no
<10> ok, so what is the exception in the java consol on your browser or the jre ?
<0> teralaser: JSP/PHP feeeds flash and flash displays it NEATLY
<10> do you understand that question
<9> wolfey : Yes , yes, but then you need two languages.
<7> Loading Java Applet failed
<7> ...
<7> in browser
<0> teralaser: well sure.. but flash gui is way better than html forms
<10> no, look in the console, that's the browser status line
<0> teralaser: that almost looks like REAL app
<10> are you using the jre from sun or something burried in your browser?
<9> wolfey : Say, I write some cl*** called Person, that treats a person.
<7> wait
<9> wolfey : If I use Flash , I need that cl*** both in Flash and on my server.
<9> wolfey : since it is two different languages, I need to rewrite code.
<0> nah, you just send text input as variable in HTTP request and display your servlet result neatly
<7> there's nothing
<10> nothing where
<7> console
<10> which one ?
<0> teralaser: why do too much in flash? flash is nice for cute graphics
<0> not for real code
<8> MatrixEVT: How did you access this console?
<7> putty
<10> MatrixEVT are you using the sun JRE ?
<8> MatrixEVT: The Java console, relevant to applets, is part of your browser.
<10> yes , no or don't know ?
<7> sorry
<9> wolfey : My point.
<9> :D
<10> rickety not necessarily
<9> wolfey : Something that would be hard to do in Flash (I'd imagine) : kgs.kiseido.com
<7> which part?
<7> where is it
<7> in my browser?
<10> FFS
<7> oh
<7> yes
<10> is there a java coffee cup icon in your system tray when you run this applet ?
<7> I got it
<7> :)
<9> MatrixEVT : You can go to www.java.com real quick and check your browser is up to date.
<7> could you look at http://fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~kfsz/index.htm ?
<10> MatrixEVT well?
<10> NO
<0> teralaser: hard is relative. for experienced flasher, it wouldnt be too hard
<10> you fecking moron, just follow the questions
<0> teralaser: for us java coders, it would be horrible
<10> are you using the sun java run time ?
<9> wolfey : How can you say ? Not being one.
<7> Using JRE version 1.5.0_06 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
<0> well i did read a flash book to get some idea
<10> if so the console is based in your system tray
<7> yes
<7> :)
<10> and it has nothing in it ?
<9> MatrixEVT : You misspelled " HellowWorld.cl*** "
<0> teralaser: but lost patience at simplest flash animation
<7> there's a lot of contents
<10> you said it was empty <oh lord give me strength>
<7> sorry
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