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<0> Oh.
<1> C64 was 48KB RAM, 16KB ROM iirc. Not sure though.
<2> yeah, oh. :)
<0> It had 64Kb ram, but some were hidden behind the ROM.
<1> teralaser: What?
<2> ricky_clarks: nope, full 64 kb, but 16 kb of it was overlayed. you had to do some creative stuff to get to that.
<1> Clackwell: I see.
<0> what Clackwell said (more elegantly)
<2> didn't simon's basic go into that memory region?
<2> teralaser: what was it?
<0> A program to print out mnemonics as ladder diagrams (some Programmable Logic Controller PLC application)
<2> teralaser: aha. i dare say i haven't come across it. :)
<0> They sold for 15000$ . I was paid about 3000$ as a teenager. "Welcome to capitalism!"



<2> doesn't sound too shabby still.
<2> being parents-financed that was an nice extra i bet.
<0> No, it outdoes what I do in my daytime job today. You had to translate linear code into relay diagrams.
<0> Sad, in a sense.
<0> Parents-financed ?
<1> Financed by parents.
<2> rob
<1> I.e., when you were living at home.
<3> heh
<0> No a company payed me actually. They took a brisk decision and hired after some "Being from school out into real life" practice.
<1> teralaser: He means that you didn't have to pay rent etc.
<0> yeah, and no taxes either
<0> I think that is what "Sweet sixteen" is really about.
<0> :D
<4> Yeah I remember a movie about C64 gaming scene, it was Ocean or Imagine, when a 14-year-old guy brought a c***ette , - "How much would you like to have for this one?". looked funny. Good for you teralaser :]
<2> some developer cl***ifications: http://www.hacknot.info/hacknot/action/showEntry?eid=81
<1> Arrogant Arthur - pr3d4t0r? ;)
<2> wahaha ;)
<2> "Sadly, George always seems to anticipate incorrectly."
<1> Clackwell: Probably more like Skill Set Sam.
<2> ricky_clarks: hm, there seems to be some to it...;)
<1> Clackwell: dibblego is Word Salad Warren.
<1> Clackwell: slava is Process Peter.
<2> i have something of word salad warren i'm afraid.
<2> naw, slava is not at all like process peter.
<2> process peter is an enterprise developer, doing things by the book, instead of by common sense. slava tries to apply common sense.
<1> I'm Distracted Daniel + Generic George.
<5> god, I fit into way too many of those stereotypes ;)
<2> :)
<3> alot of my collegues fall into the 'kludgy kevin' category
<2> of course there are also the flame warriors to consider: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
<3> too lazy to check if something work
<2> (hilarious note: epesh thinks he's an eagle scout)
<5> a bit of Distracted Daniel, som of Generic George, some of Hacker henry, some of X-files Xavier and some of Zealous Zack..
<2> well, i'm kludgy kevin too, but not as much as one of my co-workers!
<5> I am so very much -not- kludgy kevin. I kludge when ordered to kludge, and then grudgingly and I'll be complaining as I typ, as I check in, and as I test. and probably at the next weekly meeting as well
<2> there's some overlap between toolsmith trevor and not-invented-here nick
<5> we have a boatload of NIH Nick's in the office
<2> ouch ;)
<5> our entire technology team is infested with them
<5> I'm supprised we even use Microsoft products, honestly
<5> I even heard talk once about building a replacement for ccc/Harvest
<5> like the world needs one more RCS tool
<5> especially one based on our own inhouse document management system (intended for ERP software to store actuall documents, not code deltas)
<5> We have a few Toolsmith Trevors too, but they seem to be fairly sensible people..
<5> atleast they build on top of netbeans instead of letting the NIH Nick's write them a new platform (which was no doubt suggested at some point)
<3> olfactorily?
<5> I'm thinking if I have to pick a single group to define me as I currently am, I would have t pick hacker henry
<5> but not wwith -all- those negative sides. just most of them ;)
<5> Rob_uknow: now you are using large words I don't understand again ;)
<3> that word is on the website
<3> I was hoping someone could explain the meaning of that word



<3> for I am too lazy to look it up myself :)
<3> and to the silence returns
<3> -to
<6> hi Clackwell
<2> hallo shark_
<6> howdy?
<3> a cowboy
<3> I win!
<6> if you say so
<6> :)
<3> I said so
<1> Is a granada like a grenade from Granada?
<1> granade, I mean, first.
<6> it's a gaynad
<6> :)
<6> those that Rob_uknow use
<0> hahaha
<5> anyway.. I should complete this piece of shi^Wcode
<0> shark_ , don't talk to ricky_clarks about gaynads , he'll just start to let show let'ters from let'land ...
<6> have you ever notice that java badly handle closed socket
<6> like
<6> it does NOT detect EOF from socket
<0> Oh wait... estonia , not letland.
<6> and the isConnected() still return true when the socket is FIN_WAIT and then CLOSE
<3> shark_, thats a known issue
<6> hum
<6> okay i'm out
<6> see ya
<3> talios
<7> 'lo
<3> whats up?
<8> must go today. anone here interested in 1 top notch alienware laptop at 500$ or 1 top notch alienware desktop. price 500. mesage me if interested on msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or aim at ogd443. message me if interested
<0> Rob_uknow : Cramp in your finger by now ?
<3> from?
<0> hitting that kick button.
<3> nope
<0> ah, script.
<3> ofcourse
<3> i'm a developer
<3> automation by reinventing the wheel
<0> Rob_uknow == Toolsmith Trevor
<0> :D
<7> Rob_uknow, whats up? me ;) its morning - just got to the office.
<3> nice
<3> here its late
<3> start with a fresh cup of coffee?
<7> definitely :)
<3> does anyone know if a pdfEditorKit exist for JTextPane?
<9> kia ora talios
<9> good morning here
<7> 'lo
<5> meh.. I attempt to make a little tweak, and five hours later I've got six new cl***es and have touched another dozen cl***es in the project..
<5> sometimes I hate beieng a perfectionist
<0> hehe , wlfshmn
<0> wlfshmn , find your type here : http://www.hacknot.info/hacknot/action/showEntry?eid=81
<5> teralaser: I've looked, and I fit way too many of the profiles to one degree or another
<5> but I don't think there was a true perfectionist archetype
<5> ah, atleast I'm done just in time to catch the next buss.. so, laters


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