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<0> Hey you're welcome
<0> Didn't you think the entertainment in the danish newspapers are good too?
<1> ricky_clarks, then describe what exists...
<1> i should say, "SIM Interaction" how could i achieve thios
<2> GuestJava: J2ME/MIDP.
<2> Thunder^^: Are you Danish?
<0> Sure am
<1> Thunder, this channel must serve its purpose
<2> GuestJava: Which is?
<1> wait a min
<1> brb
<3> world domination?
<3> isnt that the purpose of all irc channels?
<0> heh
<2> I thought it was to m***age the egos of those with @ before their names.
<2> Then I left efnet, and for a while it seemed to be false.
<0> but now?
<2> In Freenode we give ourselves @ signs when our egos need a m***age.
<0> yeah but you can't fart in the wrong way in there anyways
<4> Dont you just hate forgetting p***words/userids ?
<0> Who doesn't?
<2> I'm lazy that way, apart from one or two important things, I use the same p***word for everything.
<0> same here
<2> bugmenot sometimes too.
<3> anyone know a decent hibernate tutorial
<5> you need teaching how to sleep? :)
<3> im having some trouble storing collections (im unsure of the config file syntax)
<3> yea, im a bit slow like that ;)
<3> Anyone can sleep, but hibernate is hardcore baby, yea!!
<3> ahem
<3> *hibernating
<0> no anyone can't sleep. insomniacs doesn't sleep
<2> A true insomniac will not live for much longer.
<3> im suddenly regretting asking that question
<3> :P
<6> it happens all the time nnp
<2> nnp: As you get used to IRC, you'll start regretting asking before you ask.
<0> I guess its our ability to speak of some other stuff once a topic is brought up
<2> nnp: Try google or a Hibernate-specific channel, possibly.
<0> I doubt there is a specific hibernate channel
<0> err the other way around
<3> lmao, i've been using IRC for years. You'd think i'd have learned not to bother asking anything useful ;)
<0> google then dumb*** :P
<3> i think there is a hibernate channel actually
<0> oh
<0> I take back what I said then :-D
<3> lol
<3> anyways im off
<3> later
<0> later
<0> I'm off too :-) MCAD studies
<2> I'm off too, as in "I stink".
<6> im gettin off
<2> What on?
<6> my computer offcourse...
<6> im not gay
<6> bah, im way to bored
<6> i like tellin bad jokes
<4> So bad, we dont even get it.
<6> no way!
<6> no one laughs at my jokes, they are TOO bad..
<6> now i have to quit... :(
<2> The funny thing is, you think we don't get it. We do, but your joke is a) based on a false premise and b) entirely unfunny.
<6> its a boolean joke
<6> but yes, it is false
<7> gah.. I hate building object structures.. nwo I'm stuck in a catch-22 agian
<8> how abt SIM
<2> J2ME/MIDP
<8> the question is not to interact with SIM from a J2ME program residing in phone memory
<8> rather how do we write a program for SIM and burn it to SIM
<2> SIM programs don't exist.
<8> which does not require JVM on phone for execution environment
<8> ricky_clarks: have you used value added services provided by Telcos on their SIMs?
<2> Not that I know of.
<2> Value added is a smelly term.
<8> ok
<8> java card API seems to have a solution....
<9> concepts, rather
<2> guest212111: What's the Java card API for?
<8> Clackwell: like what?
<8> ricky_clarks: should u also need to read abt it on java.sun.com :) ?
<2> Probably not, no.
<9> "Java Card technology provides a secure environment for applications that run on smart cards and other devices with very limited memory and processing capabilities."
<2> Smart card and SIM card are different afaik.
<9> makes you wonder if SIM cards qualify as "other devices" or "smart cards"
<8> yes
<9> ricky_clarks: same afaik
<8> a type of smart card is SIM
<9> guest212111: prove it?
<2> Does a SIM have a processor?
<8> cant now...just found the link
<9> guest212111: so you just guessed.
<8> yeah
<9> that is very professional of you.
<8> ;)
<8> i am yet researching...
<8> do u see the link "SIMagine 2006" on Java Smart Card webpage?
<9> guest212111: i saw it. yes. and it made you ***-u-me?
<9> "The new 3G-ready 128K Java SIM card is set to create a substantial impact on the market with its unprecedented memory and processing capabilities, thus enabling mobile operators to provide more personalized, sophisticated and innovative value-added services (VAS)."
<1> back
<1> Thats cool
<1> Clackwell
<4> in a SIM card ?
<9> the question is wether "java sim cards" are in widespread use i guess.
<4> hm
<9> and wether they ever will be.
<1> Clackwell: if they qualify for the goals they will be used
<9> GuestJava: did you just say something? i heard a faint noise...:)
<9> that's like saying "it will be a success if it meets the requirements"
<4> hahaha
<1> Clackwell: Smart cards are going to be adopted...not a question that java smart cards or from someone else
<9> GuestJava: yeah, so is mobile java.
<9> mobile java is the big thing, you know. has been for a few years. :)
<4> ricky_clarks : Oh, you found yet a new girlfriend ?
<2> 1.5 billion handsets support Java.
<1> yup....:)
<4> :D
<9> ricky_clarks: some variation of java :)
<2> teralaser: I've lasted two weeks thus far with an Estonian.
<9> some variations of java, rather.
<4> I don't understand the concept of putting it in the SIM card.
<4> Isnt that the part you want to keep with your phone book, and then carry on to a more advanced phone model ?
<9> teralaser: you mean you don't see the problem for the provided solution? :)
<4> hehe, yes, Clackwell
<9> teralaser: how can you b eso naive, imagine all the possibilities!
<4> Oooh.
<4> You have *** with a SIM card ?
<9> you could have intelligent telephone books, and, and....and games running on that smart card and...
<4> :P~~~~
<2> You could probably play ZX80 games on it.
<4> aha.
<9> yeah, exactly!
<4> But I played those in the 1980ties
<9> just that it has 128 kb ram!
<2> Nineteen eightieties?
<10> i get this: "build.xml:1: Document root element is missing." from Ant, but the only thing i did was uninstalling JDK 1.6 and installing JDK 1.4.2, do you know the problem? i did nothing to build.xml file, which had worked before
<9> so actually you would have a c64 in card format :)
<4> Nah, a C128
<4> C64 = 64 kb RAM :D
<9> teralaser: you mean...it could run cp/m? no way man!
<2> Nope.
<9> teralaser: 64 kb to store the game. 64 kb to *run* the game ;)
<4> Oh.
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