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<0> kmh: the trig functions are there
<0> as is floor and ceil
<1> smsie : i understand that, still it is annoying that those stuff is missing
<2> oooh yes!
<3> no
<1> smsie : not in my doc
<2> why is bla = 0 when i write: int bla = 10/255;
<1> smsie : looking at http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/apis/jsr030/
<0> kmh: I'm looking at http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/apis/jsr139/java/lang/Math.html. They appear to be there in that
<2> ah.. of course
<2> it has to be 0
<1> how do i know which one applies ?
<0> I have no idea
<2> ok ok.. it works
<2> 10/255 is near to 0.. so it will round down to 0
<0> I'd imagine the documentation for whatever device you had would tell you



<2> it's workin man
<2> my cell phone :-P
<3> any integer division with a smal number divided by a larger number is 0
<1> honkey : ok you can use (long) Math.floor(x+0.5) then
<2> it works..
<2> no problems left at the moment :D
<1> honkey: if your JME has it
<1> ok
<2> anyone of you ever programmed java for mobile phones?
<3> not me
<0> nah, I have a real job :)
<2> i mean look at all these games for mobile phones.. there have to be some coders doing this ;)
<0> oh, there are
<2> nice nice..
<2> this gradient looks great on my phone :P
<0> I wouldn't want to write trite games all day though
<2> well i will just use it to make some calculation tools and so on i think
<2> ok thank you all and cu
<4> does somebody want to whip up a program that'll feed by dog every few hours?
<4> cl*** feedAbbey
<5> You want to be fed by a dog.
<4> no... i want someone to feed my dog
<4> if a dog could feed me, that'll be cool too
<4> saves on labor costs
<4> heh
<6> talkin about java irc client: how can i write something, to make autojoining a channel ?
<6> help please
<0> depends on the framework. There's probably a way to trigger on the connect event
<6> ya..
<6> wanna have a look ?
<0> not really, no. Read the docs that came with it. It's midnight+ here, not going to start in now
<6> http://pastebin.ca/340760
<6> :|
<6> i'm in hurry, please
<6> so, i was thinking at something like:
<6> <param name="channeljoin" value="channel">
<6> but this doesn't work :(
<7> Shad0w-: yeah, see, telling us to hurry up tends to have the oposite effect
<6> but why
<6> <param name="channeljoin" value="channel"> doesn't work ??
<6> :((
<6> should work.....
<8> if i create a gui, should i have the gui call the methods or just have the gui display stuff and let a controlUnit() call the methods aswell as control the GUI?
<0> depends which way you want to do it...
<8> duh
<8> no ****
<8> =)
<8> but what would make more sense?
<0> depends how you want to do it
<0> both ways are useful at diffferent times
<8> well
<8> just having GUI display info sent to it
<8> is consistent with reusing pattern
<8> is consistent with reusing patterns
<8> since it becomes independent..
<0> yes, and if that's your goal, that's the way to go
<8> well
<8> isnt that always the goal?
<8> to create independent modules?
<0> no
<0> sometimes the goal is to create a standalone application



<0> reusable modules is good when it makes sense
<0> there are times when that makes life awkward
<0> like everything, it's a tradeoff
<0> databases are supposed to be normalised...it makes sense
<0> normalise too far, and it stops making sense and becomes a liability
<8> ay..
<0> rules of thumb are just that...they exist to make you think defore you break them
<8> my first thought was to just have it as stand alone..
<7> smsie: aww, come on, everyone loves queries with 10 outer joins ,)
<8> but then that requires me to call GUI() everytime something changes
<0> are you likely to ever want to reuse a module?
<0> wlfshmn: :)
<8> yes
<8> ofc u are
<8> :D
<8> reuse THIS module well ;)
<8> thats something else..
<8> anyway..
<8> but then that requires me to call GUI() everytime something changes
<8> and then well its just a display thingie :E
<8> with return on buttons ofc :e
<0> remember that code reuse can work in multiple ways
<8> but then again.. maybe thats what a gui should do
<0> you can have a module that you can reuse
<8> well if the gui is dependent on other methods
<0> or sometimes just copying and pasting the code you want is a better way
<8> they need to be included to make it reusable..
<8> which ofc makes sense if they are unique to gui
<8> i guess i just answered my own question..
<8> off to creating the stupid thing :P
<9> anyone looking for work?
<9> it's a 2 week deadline - $2,000 project
<8> :D
<8> sweet
<8> ill take the money and outsource it to bangladesh for 100$
<9> lol
<9> msg me if anyone seriously wants a go at it
<8> i wish i could
<0> it's not enough money
<8> 2000$ for 2 weeks?
<0> $2000 buys you a day of my time
<8> lol =)
<8> well im a poor student ;)
<8> support meh smsie ^^
<0> well, 0, but when exchanged that's something like $1950
<8> and ill give u a few free times later on :)
<8> gimme 0 and i give u one week free when im graduated
<8> ^^
<0> haha...no
<8> aww ;)
<9> ..
<8> trin its hard for ppl to say anything wihtout knowing what the job is..
<8> smsie, ok ive started with the gui.. does a window shut down on return? :e
<9> I am a recruiter for a large development company.
<9> We are looking for some highly skilled coders to join our eleet team
<9> We have a test project that is open to anyone who would like to attempt to complete it.
<9> It is a 2 week deadline - $2,000 project
<9> The coders with the best results that complete the project within the deadline ill be offered more long term higher paying jobs on our team.
<9> Please message me if you are interesting in giving this a shot...
<9> - if you message me i'll paste you the specs
<0> so you will pay people to apply for a job?
<0> con
<9> no
<9> it's true
<9> where is the con
<9> that is how we find the best
<8> :)
<9> we pay a bunch of people to code the same thing
<8> u get paid to do the project
<9> it's a test
<9> and we hire the best ones
<8> and outsorce it to noobs..
<8> ^^
<8> that way u find new workers and make a buck :D


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