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<0> but why doesnt the following work? Calendar c = new Calendar() ?
<1> Calendar is abstract, iirc.
<0> its abstract and cannot be instantiated
<0> ...
<1> Learn what abstract means.
<1> dateman: http://cime.net/~ricky/netsim/oldham/calendar_etc.html
<0> thx
<2> or you could move to the GregorianCalendar cl***, iirc that one isn't abstract.
<2> not too sure here from mind.
<1> Calendar provides static methods to get an instance of it.
<1> Just like Toolkit does.
<1> Which will look at your locale and decide which subcl*** of Calendar is most appropriate.
<1> I wonder whether it supports Martian timezones.
<0> thanks for good help, find dates/java a bit confusing at first tho..
<1> It is a particularly badly designed API.
<3> rickety: what, Date? or Calendar?
<4> JOE
<3> tmbg: IAN
<1> jottinger: Both, indirectly. Calendar by ***ociation with Date (Calendar.getTime() returns Date).
<4> :P
<4> jottinger: http://gromit.usedforcomparison.com/~tmbg/floor.jpg
<3> Well, Date is easy to understand
<3> calendar, sadly, is less understandable because Date was such a botched job
<3> tmbg: nice!
<4> :D
<3> you have a bright future in contracting
<4> hahah
<4> I don't think you could pay me enough
<4> jesus hell was I sore after doing all that
<4> especially because I'm enough of a moron that I setup the tile saw in the basement
<4> so I had to run down and up for every cut
<3> hahaha
<3> sounds like you got what you deserved
<4> and there was a LOT of cuts
<4> ie, every single piece
<3> I've decided I'm going to do my java ee app the ugly way
<4> I did all under the appliances too
<4> can't see it, but it's purty :)
<3> as in, deploy; catch failure; create JNDI ref based on what the error message is; redeploy
<3> rinse, repeat as necessary
<4> yuck!
<3> hopefully by the end I'm not bald
<4> jottinger: man, I miss EE
<4> you'd die if you saw the hackish mess that is the app I'm working on now :(
<3> I miss Orion's trivial setup, and I filed an enhancement that Gl***fish should save off the "default sun config" as orion did
<3> oh god
<3> it's country week
<4> it's got this bizarre roll-your-own sort of remoting using spring HTTPInvoker
<3> hahaha
<3> nice!
<4> so like, you create a FooFactory, and based on a props file you get a RemoteFooFactory
<3> of course
<3> why would you create the foo factory though?
<4> and that uses a FooFactoryService to communicate with a remote FooFactoryServiceImpl
<3> Why not let spring inject it?
<4> and that creates a LocalFooFactory
<4> which uses Bea Jolt to talk to a Bea Tuxedo service on unix
<3> isn't that the sort of crap Spring was designed to AVOID?
<4> which uses C++ cl***es to talk to C services
<4> that I think eventually talk to some fortran to translate some powerbuilder oracle calls
<3> hahaha
<4> I'm a little hazy on what's on the other side of tuxedo
<3> you're working on a mutt!
<4> but it's not far off from that
<4> yes, it's a 15 year old entrenched telecom billing system
<4> very very nasty stuff
<3> get 'em to upgrade to BEA!
<4> they need to upgrade to RoR
<4> because their data model is taking 4 months to build
<4> seriously
<3> hahahaha
<3> Seriously, though, Java EE's resolution is amazingly bad -- in gl***fish, at least
<4> resolution?
<3> at no point do they actually draw clean lines about resolving JNDI references
<4> ah
<3> I know WHERE it can be resolved, and I sort of know how it can be resolved, except that nothing I try based on what the docs explain works
<3> oh god, why do they do country on American Idol?
<4> heheheh
<3> my poor son
<3> he built a counter - displays in binary and via an LED - with variable counting rates and different start points - and he doesn't understand why he's not programming
<1> Country music kills.
<1> Some English woman is on trial for shooting her husband while "whooping" to Shania Twain.
<1> She didn't know it was loaded or something.
<1> jottinger: I've done the deed now, and she's damn angry.
<3> I bet
<3> You're a cad, mate
<3> sorry
<1> I could have been less honest.
<1> I.e., carry on with her regardless.
<3> or you could have done the right thing
<3> i.e., break up with her before cheating
<1> She was near enough begging, then I had to go off and teach. When I finished I had loads of long angry text messages on my phone. She thinks she was just a bit of fun for me. I hate text messages, they're for wimps who can't speak face-to-face.
<3> rickety: sadly, what you did is sort of for wimps who can't just say "I want to break up"
<3> so you kinda deserved it
<3> sorry, man
<3> that's just how I see it
<1> jottinger: I said it 5 times today and she still didn't get the idea. I had to say "I've been thinking about someone else" for her to get the idea.
<1> Maybe that's why I needed the impetus of having cheated already, it was easier to be firm with that over me.
<1> I did it the honest way last year, and it took ages.
<3> yeah, taking ages is a great reason to become a cad
<1> Thanks, I think I need the criticism.
<3> Oh well, you're pretty young
<3> sorry, man
<3> I just find the whole thing reprehensible
<1> The only person I've spoken to IRL about it is the girl I cheated with, who is obviously biased.
<3> and?
<3> That doesn't make it any better
<1> No, that's why I need the criticism.
<3> I have skeletons of my own that NOBODY knows about, that doesn't make it any better
<1> Me too.
<3> the problem with betraying someone else's trust is that trust is a two-way street
<3> when you break the trust, you break your own trust some too
<1> Do you equate trust and belief at all?
<1> I.e., to trust somebody should you believe in their abilities/potential?
<3> no
<3> trust is an interpersonal thing, I can trust someone who is maxed out or not, it doesn't matter
<3> it's all about how they deal with people
<3> i.e., tmbg is a moron, but I trust him
<1> Rather selfishly, I hope she keeps teaching with me.
<3> who?
<5> Hey guys...does anyone know of a way to have the java.util.Timer cl*** get true millisecond precision...It is way off right now and is throwing off my simulation where I compare a database timestamp and the time in the java.util.Timer to decide whether to process the timestamp or not
<3> Gevaudan_: no
<3> you need a hires timer, java doesn't really support it yet
<5> jottinger: know of an alternative for what I am trying to do? I would settle on second precision but there are concurrent updates
<1> Gevaudan_: It sounds like you just need to know what time it is.
<5> umm...
<6> Can anyone please explain to me Apparent type and actual type?
<7> how do you stop a thread? it lest me do .start() but the stop has a line through it
<1> Sp0tter: First, exit Eclipse.
<7> rickety, i use Jbuilder
<7> i just want to restart the run loop
<1> So exit JBuilder then.
<5> rickety: sarcasm is overrated
<1> Gevaudan_: Wrt your problem?
<7> rickety.. you arnt understanding
<1> Sp0tter: Oh, I am.
<7> Oh, you arnt.
<1> You don't know what 'has a line through it' means. You're a newbie.
<1> Newbies shouldn't use IDEs.
<5> sp0tter: it means the method is depricated or is/will be phased out...check the API for the cl*** and you'll find what is the replacement...don't mean to refer you to the API, but I don't have the answer to your question off the top of my head
<1> If you understood what it meant, you'd know where to look to solve the problem.
<5> rickety: i pretty much answered the question in the same amount of text it took you to give the run around...that was my problem
<1> Gevaudan_: You spoon-fed, or you would have done if you'd actually known the answer.
<1> There was a deeper problem than the question directly.
<5> rickety: everybody has to start somewhere
<1> Not in an IDE.
<1> IDEs cloud the issues. Newbies should ideally use a command prompt. Failing, or after that, an editor.
<7> .. i've used the command prompt for 3 years... no where in its usage did i come across lines through methods :)
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