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<0> im retarded :(
<1> morning
<2> MbGone
<2> [09:07] [CSC/#java] status: ACCEPTED
<1> oh ? :)
<1> great
<2> all we need now is someone waking up :P
<1> hey wlfshmn
<3> morning
<3> about time too
<4> why is java so slow?
<1> Clackwell?
<5> moin, about to go to bed though :)
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<5> oh wow
<1> :)
<6> morning.
<6> indeed, its ready
<6> ah wb X.
<1> :)
<5> phew :)
<6> well done
<6> it was quite a job in the end
<1> finally
<5> excellent work everyone :)
<1> now you can go back to bed :P
<7> Pff, I voted for funkular! No democracy in this place.
<7> ;)
<7> Hehe, sorry... dunno what's with me this morning, I'm hyper when I should be hungover.
<5> "Boobs - 0/10" - i hope ;)
<6> I'm mostly worried about his notes on your butt
<6> ...its a definite 10.
<7> Well... I didn't want to be too boastful
<8> hi
<6> morning calchas.
<9> Good morning guys... Whoah, I see good news
<8> yep, cool news, after many years
<8> I'm still hyper after staring at the sky last night :)
<9> hehe
<9> calchas: yeah, which reminds me that I really should have a try with redshift this evening.
<8> saw saturn just off the edge of the moon last night
<6> wow
<8> was fecking freezing out though
<6> I can imagine, you're back in Ireland?
<8> could just see some banding on saturn, but light from the moon wasn't helping
<6> presumably you didn't see it with the naked eye?
<8> yes
<8> yes in Ireland
<8> in mid east saturn was occulted by the moon
<6> are u out in the sticks, I imagine the light pollution isn't too bad
<8> 2 weeks ago I got an 8" telescope :)
<6> ah cool :)
<6> too much light around here, only 5 mins from some pretty unpopulated country though
<8> a little out of dublin, back garden has a lot of light polution, but for many objects the scope should see through it
<6> cool. Patrick Moore lives just down the road heh
<8> on the 10th saturn is at opposition and the moon is no where in the sky
<6> interesting stuff
<8> yes of course, he's a sus*** lad sort of
<8> the rings are at a good angle to see
<6> I might consider buying one, have for a while
<8> I was umming and arring for about 2 years
<6> other half will probably think I'm buying it for some kind of peeping tom activity
<8> lol
<8> upside down nipples and all
<6> heh
<8> (although an apptly named errector prism is easy to get)
<6> ah innuendo is great.
<6> I suppose we can dispense of the ops etc now
<6> could of walked into next room, but ultravnc is too nice to resist
<8> ah x has joined and all
<6> indeed
<8> I saw the determination, but at that time x hadn't joined
<8> I may be moving to cork in the spring (if a new job opportunity works out) that may allow better dark skys
<6> I can imagine so
<8> bye for now
<1> re all
<9> now all we need is for Clackwell to add some chanops and we're all back to normal.
<9> MbGone: howdy
<9> And now to see if I can utilize some of my Java knowledge for sysadmin usages. Its not the terrain I'd pick it for as best solution (first shell scripting, second perhaps perl scripting even though my knowledge is limited on that field) but if I can set things up right....
<10> Lion-O: And get rid of the hound ;)
<9> It'd be nice to write small utilities which are both useable on Linux and Windows (which is my main concern really; I'm a linux admin now and the desktop users have windows).
<9> wlfshmn: absolutely.
<10> Lion-O: atleast we know we now have a stable channel with a manager that is actually around once in a while ;)
<11> java for sysadmin purposes...like what?
<9> wlfshmn: *nod*
<9> smsie: utilities which I can't achieve with basic shellscripts.
<11> like?
<9> smsie: no idea yet :) I'm still in the process of checking out their servers.
<11> :)
<9> In fact I think I'll clock in some extra hours later this evening. I'm /very/ worried about the seemingly lack of backups :/
<11> I guess you *oculd* expose some sysadmin stuff as webservices or something
<9> smsie: *nod*
<11> not convinced it's a good idea to though
<9> they're even using phpmyadmin for some common tasks which I think is actually worse. I'd rather set something up myself :)
<10> smsie: I use java tools like any other command in some of my scripting ,)
<10> smsie: most notably doing xml transforms ,)
<11> well, yeah...java excels at that kind of thing
<11> wlfshmn: but basically you're calling java -jar ... in a shell script. That's not the same as exposing it over a tomcat or somethiung
<9> hmm :)
<11> I thought Lion-O's idea was more to do the admin stuff via spring/hibernate/wsdl/bpel/xml/whatever. Which seems like overkill to me. Probably I misunderstood him though
<10> smsie: sure, and for most stuff in there, I use more traditional tools ;)
<10> smsie: jwebmin ,)
<11> wlfshmn: indeed :)
<9> hehe :-)
<11> can I borrow that sledgehammer? I wanna eat some peanuts
<10> smsie: peanuts age well, it's jsut the shell that fosilizes ;)
<9> right, time to package up the sc00t.
<10> Lion-O: too cold?
<9> wlfshmn: naah, just protection. I always keep it locked and packed.
<9> motor "sheet" or whatever you call it which goes over it.
<10> Lion-O: coworker of mine used ot ride a scooter to work all the time
<10> Lion-O: until last year..
<9> wlfshmn: what happened? ;)
<10> Lion-O: that was when he bought a porsche 911 carerra sniffy
<9> ha ha ha
<10> s/sniffy/S/
<10> Lion-O: he upgraded a tad ;)
<12> hey
<12> anuybody familiar with ram standard PC3200 and such ?
<12> trying to understand what PC3200/2700/2100/1600 actually means
<11> they're speeds of memory
<11> DDR memory specifically
<11> 3200 is 400MHz, 2700 is 333MHz, 22100 is 266MHz and I *think* 1600 is 233 (not 100% sure about the last one though)
<11> s/22100/2100/
<11> ah, I see
<11> the number after PC is GByte/s bandwidth
<11> and PC1600 runs at 200MHz (100*2)
<11> 200*8=1600, makes sense...
<12> hmm
<11> DDR bus width is 64bits (8 bytes)
<12> but i can put 3200 modules into a pc2100 plug ?
<11> yep
<12> ok
<11> it will run at 2100 speeds is all
<12> just wanted t be sure about that part
<11> you *can* put a 2100 module in a 3200 port...but it will probably be quite unreliable :)
<12> well i put new memory into an older board in this case
<11> that should work fine. It will just run at the slower speed of the board
<12> that's no problem then - thanks
<13> I have a GUI application with about 5 cl***es...when im creating a UML cl*** diagram, do I need to include all the JTextField, JPanel etc. attributes ? and methods such as createMenuBar() ...do I put them all in?
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