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<0> yes
<0> actually the math formula uses a conversion as well
<0> integer to float/double that is
<1> my coffee tasted much better without math, thank you :)
<2> hi
<2> all
<1> ah, MbGone is infected with carriage-return-itis!
<1> someday......someday there will be a cure......
<3> there is
<1> but
<1> not
<3> its called oversensitive flood protection
<1> today....aw crap it is spreading!
<4> hmm.. idea has started opening menus on the wrong monitor..
<4> how uhm, impractical
<2> hmm i do not!
<1> MbGone lag time: 19 minutes :P
<1> Man, ThreadPoolExecutor really pisses me off....
<1> There apparently is no combination of parameters which allows you to make a pool of at most N threads, allowing idle threads to timeout and deallocate...
<4> .. ah braile lcd monitor?
<1> how else would you view porn when your eyes get poked out...
<1> I mean code....
<4> a friend did suggest earlier today that I watch pr0n while coding, actually
<1> just make sure you review your code comments and variable names....
<5> hi
<5> any one can help me ?
<5> any one know
<5> PDF JAVA tuturial
<5> for begginer with introduction
<6> google "java tutorial"
<7> bouzukist: BEGINNERSBIBLES Download these two bibles (free of charge): 1) Sun Java Tutorial (http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/) 2) Bruce Eckel's "Thinking in Java" (http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/)
<6> I'll also save that for future use...
<8> hi#
<8> is it true I can use javascript in java?
<1> http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/
<8> perfect, thanks
<7> java 1.6 contains rhino scripting stuff, if i recall correctly. might be jdk only, not sure.
<8> woah what happened to #java?
<5> tnhksd
<1> np. of course you could have just paged up from where Stegul asked it in #linuxhelp....
<5> java is like C ?
<5> same principe ?
<1> no.
<8> no, c is like a pencil. Java is like a gl*** cutter
<1> done with that question....
<8> Girr: scroll up? be nice :)
<1> c is like a firefly. java is like a pristeen waterfall, flowing effortlessly over a calm settting, cranes whooping in the background.
<8> can I define functions and things in javascript then?
<1> abdulAlim: please read on rhino before asking things answered there,....
<5> there is no pdf tutorila on the site
<8> Girr: oh shut the **** up. It's better to say nothing than open your mouth and behave like a retard.
<1> heh, and I am the one still in the channel
<9> anyone here knows atg dynamo?
<1> eh, what a useless chicken abdul is....
<9> why
<7> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6320865.stm
<6> heh
<10> 'Another "feature" with the JDK 6 (not JRE 6) is that it ships standard with the Derby embedded database. I have still not met anyone who thinks this is a good idea.'
<10> heh
<4> rhowe: well, it ships with what, derby 0.9 or some such...
<4> rhowe: the bad idea beeing making defacto standards out of stuff that isn't stable yet ;)
<11> haha
<7> http://youtube.com/watch?v=kX8oYoYy2Gc
<7> (vista speech recognition)
<7> wlfshmn: plus shipping a specific version along...how will apps cope with that when they need a different version?
<12> I think its a good idea to include a DB in the JDK. Then Applets and small Applications are easier to develop. If you really need serious DB support, you can still use another one.
<12> It should be included in the JRE as well though.
<7> Chrescht: nothing stops you from shipping the db engine you need along.
<7> it is not per se a matter of "oh my god, way too large, can't do that!"
<12> But this is heavy, and if I just need to build a table and to make a few queries, I'd rather go for a builtin one.
<7> that's nonsense.
<12> No
<7> what you said bears no relevance to wether a db engine should be included or not. at all.
<12> You can also add your own Bignumber library, your own Email library, your own XMl engine..., but its nice to have it there already
<7> shipping hsqldb, which is tiny, along is a snap.
<12> The whole JRE is a bundle of stuff you could add yourself
<7> in the case of java having tons of stuff shipped in the jre is not nice, because no other developer world is as ununited about what they want as the java community.
<7> too few developers even use (relational or not) db engines to start with.
<7> good thing: they didn't make it part of the jre - yet.
<12> Not everybody uses Swing or Apllets, but it is bundled
<12> Not everybody uses XMl, but you have an engine ready
<7> Chrescht: yes, and what a crappy engine and api.
<7> having it as the standard doesn't make it any less obscure, unwieldy, crappy.
<7> people will just ship their stuff along.
<12> These things are standardised and can be used straightforward
<12> If you only use the basic SQL stuff, any engine will do
<7> in case of a db engine, i would ship my own copy along, too, to avoid incompatibilities with future java versions related to the db engine. of course the one i ship along could also be incompatible. <shrug>
<7> Chrescht: xml? in java? straightforward? aha.
<12> If you only use it to make simple queries on a few small tables, you will never run into problems
<12> Java provides DOM and stuff as specified by the w3c
<12> There are many technologies like CSS, XML, XSLT, SQL, HTML, HTTP, SMTP... that you all need at different layers in your application. But if you must include all the support for everything by yourself this gets very complicated IMO. Providing engines encourages developers to use the right technology at the right place without having to worry about the rest.
<7> why is it complicated to pick a db engine?
<7> or any other component that you require?
<7> including stuff encourages people to use it, agreed, even despite a higher level of obscurity, flexibility, etc. pp.
<7> see you later
<12> If I don't have DB, I will perhaps use Collections and make some loops to find my values out of some Lists. If I have an SQL integrated, I might chose to put my data into tables and run an AQL query, which is cleaner.
<12> see you
<13> congrats Clackwell
<14> did he do it?
<13> naw, but germany won in handball
<15> what would be faster in terms of development speed? Java EE or Ruby on Rails for a event registration / management system with a MySQL backend?
<16> depends on too many different issues to even closely comment on it.
<17> hi
<16> if you have experience with both you'd be the best person to pick up the difference.
<17> Could not reserve enough space for object heap
<17> i keeping getting that
<14> maybe look at grails or trails
<17> java -Xmx1024m
<14> java implementations of rails
<16> Hi Rob
<14> hi Lion-O
<16> hmm, still no X so I see.
<14> x is hiding
<16> Rob_uknow: that bastard :)
<14> yeah
<14> lets hunt it down and ..
<17> anybody help me please
<16> Rob_uknow: I'm with you. Maybe we can unleash the fiercesome might of Clackwell's JavaBot bot it :)
<16> ON it ofcourse.
<14> that silly bot
<15> Rob_uknow: thanks, I'll look into grails/trails because I already know java and I want the rails functionality of the framework.
<15> I dont know ruby
<14> I only tried trails myself
<14> worked pretty nice
<15> is it easy to install and use?
<15> just like RoR?
<14> I don't know ror
<14> but for me it was easy to install
<15> abbreviation of Ruby on rails
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