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<0> later bro
<1> later :)
<1> sleep well.
<1> Which bullet would that be?
<2> the dell bullet
<3> oh hi xheliox
<1> Hello A****aka :)
<3> how are you?
<1> Not bad.
<1> Yourself?
<3> I'm ok
<1> Good good.
<3> so you converted to gentoo! good choice :)
<1> Not completely.
<1> Just my desktop.
<1> I don't see doing this for my servers. :)
<3> well, you can always build your packages and distribute it after
<3> :)
<4> -_-
<3> but yeah, gentoo isn't too much for a server
<5> is great for a server
<1> how so?
<5> werll, you only get what you want
<5> which in my case is very little
<5> and it runs on sparc!
<5> of course im having issues with mpg123 right now....
<1> Well, I get what I want with all my RHEL and Centos servers too. ;) I can see people using Gentoo for servers, I wouldn't.
<1> Especially with as many as I have running Centos and RHEL already.
<5> again, my main reason for using it is i have a sparc
<6> I know a company that is running a major content management server, IBM's CM OnDemand product, on ... Gentoo.
<5> and dont care to use slowaris
<6> It's a great server.
<1> I do see the advantages of not building half of your stuff with libs that aren't relevant to anything I'm doing.. but.. I can take some good with some bad.
<3> the main problem that I see with gentoo is the time it take to update
<3> if a lib update break something until the update is completed, and that update take a few hours... it may be a few client lost..
<6> true, but on a real production system you have a little different change management that most are used to. Things are staged on test systems then migrated after strict testing.
<1> Yeah, but then there's the real world and SOHO environments where that's less then practical. And you'd like to know the update you're getting has been tested on your hardware type and is just going to work in 5 seconds.
<6> he who expects that from any distro is going to be sorely disappointed LOL
<7> You know what we need?
<1> I've expected that from RHEL and then Centos for many many moons and I can't pinpoint an instance where that it's failed me.
<6> wimmin
<7> Some ROPE.
<6> we need wimmin
<6> I can't count the times an update has broken something or other.
<6> usually no problem but usually isn't good enough for high availability systems
<1> well, thank god for choice. :)
<6> are you talking about linux or wimmin?
<1> In general, I suppose.
<6> Hilary or Condi
<6> that may be the choice
<1> Nah.
<1> I throw away my vote.
<1> Libertarian.
<6> just under half the voters do the same every election
<7> Does one have to be alive to be president?
<6> obviously not
<8> bush has been brain dead for years.
<7> Everyone should write in Abraham Lincoln.
<6> Mickey Mouse
<1> I've never seen a write in spot on my ballot.
<1> I'd have some fun with that shiznit.
<7> It would be doubly amusing because you'd get to see how many people voted for "lincon".
<6> lol
<6> just push some buttons, Diebold will take care of the rest.
<6> I'm glad we don't have Diebold machines here
<7> Ok.
<6> ROPE
<7> That was my dose of politics for the month.
<1> We have optical scan machines, which seem the most logical to me. There's a plain paper record that's machine readable.
<6> same here
<9> I pull a lever and only a lever.
<9> Mechanical FTW.
<7> pinkerton:
<9> I am not here.
<7> Lies.
<7> pinkerton is a noob.
<4> arrrr..
<4> wasn't expecting mashka25!
<10> i hear ya
<11> lol
<10> i got it compiling now
<11> yawn
<11> got bored with waiting so I installed this epic irc client to kill time...
<10> bah should got irssi
<10> it only needs perl
<11> is that the best one? last I knew bitchx was the best but this is supposedly better
<11> I never did get into CLI irc clients
<10> irssi is way better then epic and bitchx once toy get it all configured
<11> IRC is just something that works out better in a gui
<10> not to me
<11> like right now I'm in one channel... I have no idea how to join another channel and switch between the two in a text mode irc client
<11> never really used one before
<10> well epic dumps everything in one window like bitchx
<10> irssi has seperate windows you switch thru with crtp+p or N
<10> ctrl*
<11> hmm...compiling kdepim now
<11> I think kde must be compiling over here right now...lots of KDE related stuff on the screen, so I guess xorg is done
<11> I swear this is the worst part of building gentoo...waiting on xorg/kde to build
<11> at least I've got 64 bit and wireless working on my laptop already. that was a lot easier than I was expecting
<11> just got to cross my fingers with my ATI graphics chip
<12> techmaster: you can check and see whats currently merging, ps ax
<12> what ati card?
<8> eeew.
<8> he said ati.
<12> man, I'm a lil too faded tonight
<12> I think I'mma lay down and p*** out
<11> I think it was a Radeon Mobile 200M or something like that if I remember right
<11> # links http://images.google.com
<11> a guy at work decides he's going to try installing fedora on his pc at home... so I go "what the heck
<11> and decide to install gentoo on my laptop... 10 minutes later, he's done and up and running in X.
<11> over 24 hours later, I'm compiling X.
<11> oh well, it's worth it when you have a linux box that boots in less than 30 seconds
<11> and isn't running apache, mysql, etc... by default
<11> is there a command that I can use to test my alsa driver at the command line?
<13> hello
<10> techmaster: with netbsd im installed in 5 mins, and compiling xorg in 10
<4> Wilkommen Neaprocs.
<3> any security freak here?
<4> www.aj.com
<3> let's say you want to connect to a site, but in a way that even the police won't be able to trace you back...
<3> how would you do it?
<3> tor network? it seems good, but I don't know if it's trustable
<14> lol connect to your neighbor's wireless network using a removable wireless card, then burn the card after you're done? :p
<4> I look good in hot pants.
<14> heh or you can drive into the middle of town and use a wireless network their, probably better idea than neighbor's
<3> seriously...
<14> not sure how secure anonymous proxies are
<14> er, s/their/there
<3> tor network look secure
<3> but if they keep log of everything and land it to the police then it's not that great...
<14> hm wouldn't the ISP still see what sites you go to?
<14> you <-> ISP <-> tor <-> web server
<14> "A branch of the U.S. Navy uses Tor for open source intelligence gathering, and one of its teams used Tor while deployed in the Middle East recently. Law enforcement uses Tor for visiting or surveilling web sites without leaving government IP addresses in their web logs, and for security during sting operations."
<14> heh that's ironic
<3> nope... me -> crypted -> isp -> tor -> web
<3> actually, it's not web, but icq/msn/irc
<14> ah
<14> wouldn't the ip address you are connecting to be visible anyway?
<14> i mean, that doesn't matter so much with icq/msn/irc
<14> as long as the content is encrypted
<3> now, the police decide to track me down, they contact the service admin, which go to the tor, they contact the tor... then what...
<14> who can they contant? and why would tor servers even keep logs?
<14> contact*
<3> it stop there? or the tor give the ip?
<3> oh
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