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<0> how much?
<1> a chip is bad on it
<1> I need to replace it
<0> figures
<1> couple hundred
<0> danmit.
<1> but it's 10/100tx
<1> dual
<1> that's why I got it
<1> I bet the 2511 would work
<1> 10baset
<1> dual
<0> I don't like how inflexible and cost prohibitive their line of products are. I think it would be cheaper to just use a Linux box with two eth ports. I could custamize it just the same.
<0> Too bad their isn't a project that allows linux to emulate IOS
<0> http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/5826/print <-- Almost what I'm looking for
<2> thats normal to have a non db serial connection



<0> By the way how do you guys back up your linux box?
<2> dds3
<2> never had to restore though...
<2> i just tar to tape
<0> whats dds3?
<2> 12gb uncompressed tape
<0> can you tar the entire "/" directory without ill effects on rebuild?
<2> no, not the entire root
<2> stuff like /dev you dont backup ;)
<0> yea I learned that the hardwar too. :(
<3> really?
<3> :)
<0> err hardwar
<0> err harday
<4> -_-
<3> crc: almost
<0> danmit my keyboards acting goofy. "Hardway"
<3> one more time
<0> I did a backup with /dev and learned that its not the way it works.
<0> PROC too
<0> I was just wanting something that can take a quick snap shot of my file system to restore later.
<0> I figure I might as well learn now if I'm gonna be putting my box at the WAN link.
<2> i grab /bin /root /usr /boot /etc /sbin /var /home
<5> crc: What you are looking is an image.
<0> does the kernel rebuild the /dev at boot up? Cause I've seen some docs that tell you how to explicitly set major and minor numbers.
<0> Yea pinkerton. :)
<0> got anything cool to do that.
<5> There are free as in beer apps to do that.
<5> Trying to remember.
<0> :)
<4> ^_^
<5> Generally you use a tape drive, but if the system is small enough you should be able to use a cd.
<5> Mondo Rescue.
<5> It's in portage.
<0> how do you go about rebulding the dev directory?
<5> You dont' need to worry, this is an image.
<0> ok.
<0> app-backup/mondo-rescue [ Masked ]
<5> The sole purpose to is backup the system and be able to restore in a full functioning manor.
<0> paranoia panic
<0> :|
<5> It's just the ebuild dood.
<5> We use it at work.
<0> oh ok.
<0> :)
<5> We RELY on it.
<5> Not on gentoo though.
<0> why's it masked?
<0> It says it can output tape. Is that the same as tar?
<5> Well you can cpio to a tape or tar to a tape.
<5> If you send it to a fake tape, how do you restore?
<5> It makes a bootable cd to restore with.
<0> can it make a DVD bootable image? Cause I'll be needing to move the file over to My XP box that actually has a burner.
<0> what distro do you use at work?
<5> RH
<0> Fedora or enterprise?
<5> I'd do some research on it working with gentoo first.
<5> Heh, RHEL
<5> Doesn't even cross my head to use Fedora, thats a desktop distro imo.
<6> Fedora is no-where near stable enough to be used as a server



<6> It's like Gentoo, it's always changing
<0> I'm sure it is but I was wondering if business were useing as its free or if they prefer enterprise. I left RH when they went commercial so I'm not sure what fedora is capable of.
<6> Ubuntu's next release will have server support for five years
<6> for free
<6> desktop for three
<6> so I'm installing that on my server when it comes out :>
<0> ubuntu's not free either?
<6> Ubuntu is completely free
<0> whats the "support clause" then?
<5> And they offer free support?
<0> omg
<0> hows that work
<5> What kind a ****ing hippies are they?
<5> Grungy I would say.
<6> pinkerton: depends what you call 'support'
<3> i heard ubuntu is made by bill gates
<6> You can get commerical, paid for support if you want it
<6> when I said support, I meant security updates...
<0> oh.
<5> By support I am thinking calling/emailing and asking a question and getting a answer.
<6> ah yes
<5> Oh, nub.
<6> I should've been more clear there
<0> So like. in 5 years your supposed to pay for updates?
<3> idd Ribs
<3> :p
<5> Yeah, thats not the right word, support.
<6> crc: no, in five years, they will drop updates, and you move to a newer release :)
<6> they release every six months
<0> And the newer release is free then right? ;)
<6> but the next one is considered to be a 'big' release
<6> crc: yep
<0> So how is that different from debian?
<3> they use recent packages
<0> lol
<5> And they dont' care about the Debian's freedoms.
<6> crc: It's not a 'we will release whenever we stop bickering and do something right for a change' like Debian
<6> It's more of a 'we will release on the 20th of April' kind of thing
<0> hehe
<0> yea debian gets a little too political
<0> but people swear by it
<0> Is ubuntu's packaging system as smooth as portage?
<0> crapy package management is why I fled Mandrake and Redhat.
<0> or rather I should say RPM hell.
<6> It's the same as Debian
<6> apt-get
<0> sounds like it is debian based.
<0> how does apt-get compare to gentoo's portage?
<2> rpms are the reason i stopped using rh
<7> yeah ubuntu is totaly debian based
<7> apt-get isn't bad but doesn't compile like portage
<7> its all binary
<0> I like my gentoo box. I'll wait till I get another machine before trying a differen't distro. I'm gonna keep gentoo as well.
<7> yeah u should
<7> once u tasted gentoo u probably don't want anything else anymore
<0> except the compile times.
<0> but then I won't be feeling them as much if I put gentoo on a stronger CPU
<0> right now its on a 566Mhz and it took nearly a week to get gnome kde and openoffice
<1> aight
<1> now it's working
<0> whats that?
<1> dbmail
<4> penguin
<2> crc, ipcop will make a great replacement for that linksys
<2> takes ~20 minutes to install and setup
<2> so jc, what's special about dbmail?
<4> hi there `gawd`
<8> hi all
<2> hi hi hi
<2> salz
<2> is aVril urrrr favorit bnd?????????
<2> veti gandi si voi la mine cum am fost in lume eu
<8> da da


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