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<0> voip pbx
<1> ahh
<1> ok
<2> =)
<3> heh... i have enough trouble avoiding fonecalls without one of them :)
<1> happy cat what are you doing with parallelism?
<0> do what now
<1> you said something about parallelism earlier...
<0> uuhhh
<1> oh wait
<1> no
<1> that was zaei
<1> sorry
<1> i'm blind smack me
<4> Yeah, that was me.
<4> =}
<3> Heppy isn't interested in paralellism OR c :)
<1> i am
<1> i am taking visual c++ and c and c++ right now... i am interested in cluster servers and how to make use of my dual processor machine
<1> any advice?
<0> i like quantum physics
<3> talk to zaei :)
<0> and chaos theory
<3> thats my best advice !
<3> wow ! thanks tyvek :)
<0> SCHWEET
<2> Blimey.
<1> me too.. happycat your name isn't alex is it?
<3> speaking of zaei .... tell me why this doesn't print the variable pos is u08 type, rprintf(pos); ....
<3> i'll stop asking stupid questions soon, i promise
<0> nope
<5> np at all it's nice to have a cat and a bear up here
<4> rprintf looks like a custom print function that probably doesn't do what you might think it does =)
<4> Look up the definition for rprintf =)
<4> Tuluthrar: Make sure you keep up on g++ =P
<3> ooh... maybe i need rprintfNum ...i'll get the hang of it soon
<3> stupid libraries
<3> i don't even know how to use a library and they're giving me grief
<4> theBear: And usually *printf functions take a format string as their first parameter.
<1> heh i need to get started with g++.. i have been a basic programmer for 17 years and a c programmer for about 3
<4> Hey, look... it threads.
<4> Tuluthrar: Forget everything you know from basic =)
<1> whet i need to do is learn to read header files better and know what's in them
<3> zaei, mm... looks like rpintf is expecting text.... i would be right in thinking that c doesn't let you freely criss-cross variable types like that ?
<1> yeah i know
<1> basic ****s
<4> Tuluthrar: Run doxygen on them =>
<4> theBear: In general, yeah.
<1> what is doxygen?
<3> doxygen eh ?
<4> theBear: C is kinda loose with data types sometimes.
<1> i prefer c++
<4> Damn straight =>
<3> interesting... i get a feeling this is gonna be a LITTLE strict on that stuff compared to normal C anyway 'cos it for a micro not an OS
<1> i get a lot of c practice with nwn
<4> Yeah, I've been getting into doxygen recently... it's nice stuff =)
<1> what is doxygen?
<4> It's a documentation system for generating documentation from source code comments.
<1> ahh
<1> right now i am focusing on linux 2d graphics programming in c++
<4> But It's helpful for getting the hang of a large code-base, since it'll do dependency graphs and such.
<1> i can open a window :P
<4> Using SDL?
<1> hmm
<3> oh gay ! caps sensitive
<1> it's called linux 3d graphics programming by norman lin
<4> theBear: Case sensitivity is awesome =P
<1> mesa 3d graphics and open gl
<4> Unless you like windows =P
<3> zaei, when yer expecting it it is.... i just didn't think FALSE and false were that different....
<4> Mesa is just an implementation of opengl =)
<1> yeah
<4> theBear: Yeah, big difference...
<1> that's what i read... so far i can open a window
<4> NEVER compare value == TRUE.
<3> mmm.....
<1> but i've had to rewrite 3 of his programs out of the book cause he made many mistakes
<4> Hehe... I've got a lot of graphics books =>
<3> o.k... cool... its all happening
<4> OpenGL Programming Guide is probably the most useful... then google.
<4> hey, look... threads.
<1> so i picked up a book from barnes and nobles called the complete reference C++ fourth edition includes advanced features such as overloading , inheritancd, virtual functions, namespaces,templates, the STL and RTTI
<1> covers syntax and libraries
<4> Who wrote it?
<1> i need to learn to read libraries myself so i can find functions to use without having to read a book
<1> herbert shildt
<1> heard of it?
<4> I THINK so.
<1> it's pretty good i think the first section goes over the difference between c and c++
<0> threads of time?
<4> HeppyCat: threads of execution!
<1> well i'm out for the night later all
<3> cya
<4> So what are you hacking up theBear ?
<6> aarg
<6> I need to redo the board..
<6> the triac board..
<3> generally playing with my new chip/pcb, and the new c libs for it, but at the moment just making (2 versions) code for a serial-protocol (3 byte messages and the odd response) -> dual stepper motor OR dual servo's ... you hook it up to an app called motion on a pc and you have a motion tracking webcam
<4> Neato.
<3> http://atecit.dyndns.org:82/trackcam.htm is the same thing done by a buddy only with a 8051 series chip and single stepper motor and someone else's code we modified as little as possible 'cos it was ****ty....
<3> these chips are cool.. hardware uart and buffers built in, lots of interrupts and timer's... with gcc and a couple of libs dev is STUPID quick
<3> and the buttons on the page might not be plugged in right now
<4> Looks nifty =>
<3> i always enjoy programming when i get back into it, and its been a while, so i'm getting into bigtime methinks
<3> into it that is
<4> I love it... there's just so much crap you can do with programming :D
<3> hmm.... is there some sneaky way of handling includes/the .c's that the makefile builds ? maybe some app that checks your source and your libs and cross-references everything to give you a couple of lists ?
<4> Lists of?
<3> well, for example, if i use rprintf in my program, i need a include for the rprintf.h and to have the makefile build rprintf.c in the libs dir... is there a way to magically generate those so i don't have to double-check if i've used this or that lib and do it manually ?
<2> No.
<3> heh
<4> I'm not sure =)
<4> What I do is just have a variable in my makefile that lists all of the .o files that I need...
<4> And then make will take care of building them if they need it.
<3> hmm... is a .o made from a .c AND a .h OR just a .c ?
<4> Just the .c
<3> hmmm... so i still gotta make sure all the .h's are in the .c ?
<4> Whenever you do #include "foo.h", the compiler essentially opens up the file foo.h, read's everything in it, and replaces the #include statement with whatever was in the file.
<4> Yep, always have to include your .h files.
<3> of course... just like every other language's include functions....
<3> i get it
<4> You can run gcc to just do the pre-precessing steps, and even tiny files can run into the 10s of thousands of lines of code just from includes.
<3> mmmm... indeed
<3> o.k.. got a couple of things to do... .once again, zaei is the god of C ... and thanks for the tips
<4> Hehe, sure =)
<7> hey, I have another problem with nvidia and X :( I want to use the nvagp and not the agpgart, so i modulized the agpgart in kernel and added nvagp 1 to my xorg.conf, but now my agp status is disable, and when i try to startx with the nvidia driver, it just freeze, cant get to splashscreen, no error in my log :(
<7> because with the agpgart build in the nvagp didnt load, because the agpgart was already loaded, so maybe that was why I had poor 2d perfomance ?
<7> in the kernel*
<4> I'm using agpgart, no problems...
<7> so its the video card?? :(
<7> I tried everything..
<4> I really dunno =(
<7> I still dont get why this cards sux so much on linux
<4> Does it work on another distro?
<4> Maybe pull down a knoppix CD, and try it there.
<7> no, beside Windoes :(
<7> had the same problem with Ubuntu, it was even worst
<4> Are you using an nforce mobo?
<7> no
<7> pentium3 asus mobo
<7> intel chipset
<4> When you used agpgart, did agp enable?
<7> yeah when I did cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status it was enable
<7> with the agp gart
<4> Hmmmz.
<7> but I have so poooooooooooor 2d/3d performance, theres no way scrolling down a terminal lag the **** out of an mx440
<7> renderaccel true and all the things
<4> What happens if you turn that off?
<7> nothing
<7> even tried the dri/drm
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