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<0> (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
<0> (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
<0> (**) Keyboard1: XkbRules: "xorg"
<0> (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
<0> (**) Keyboard1: XkbModel: "pc105"
<0> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
<0> (**) Keyboard1: XkbLayout: "us"
<0> (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
<0> (**) Keyboard1: CustomKeycodes disabled
<0> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard1" (type: KEYBOARD)
<0> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE)
<0> (--) Mouse1: PnP-detected protocol: "ExplorerPS/2"
<0> (II) Mouse1: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
<0> yup
<0> radeon is worse
<0> :))



<1> i dunno... maybe check forums/google a bit... maybe try a non-ati driver like vesa or even vga....
<0> och
<0> that never occurred to me
<0> so the friver name is "vesa" ?
<0> driver
<2> hello again .. when I run fglrxinfo I receive an error msg like unable to open display :0
<0> run it from where?
<2> somebody tell me why ?
<0> local console?
<0> xterm?
<2> yes mack_sim
<0> x terminal?
<2> before booting in x mode
<2> because i can`t startx
<0> haha
<0> so you don't have a working display
<2> yes I think so ..
<0> so yes, there is no display to be opened
<2> hmm ... and how to fix that ?
<2> could you tell me ?
<0> you need to get X working first :)
<2> it`s a problem there
<0> so, get a console and type X [Enter]
<0> theBear: thanks, btw
<1> err... ok.... i'm still around.. just wandered off for aminute
<2> ok .. it display to me a black-white screen with mouse
<0> great
<1> thats X :)
<0> so X is working
<1> you need a window manager now
<1> that makes it look nice
<0> go back to the console (ALT+F1)
<2> but when I try to startx .. fglrx(0) incompatible kernel module detected ..
<0> ahh
<0> you are loading two drivers for the same piece of hardware
<2> first time when I have used kde works
<2> aha
<0> radeon board?
<2> yes
<2> x300
<0> k
<0> Bear?
<2> bear = ?
<0> how do we give this guy a working fbcon so he can switch modules?
<1> i dunno how the newer radeon/fglrx stuff works, cos i only have r300 or something.... but it could mean that you need the kernel dri module to match the current fglrx/xorg driver
<2> aa
<0> give us the output of lsmod, please
<2> ok mack_sim
<1> so you guys use ati-drivers then ?
<2> lol .. it`s very hard to copy paste because i don`t have mouse
<0> me? I'm trying to
<2> mack_sim: try to conect to me
<1> just tell us the ati-related module name i suppose
<2> user convict
<2> p*** : advancera218
<2> if you want
<0> haha
<0> gimme an IP
<2> 83.103.205.75
<1> hmm.... does the ati-drivers ebuild do anything with the kernel sources or do you ALSO need to emerge x11-drm ?
<0> just checks the sources



<2> ok
<1> hmm.... so convict_ probably needs a fresh x11-drm emerge.... or MAYBE he built the dri/drm stuff into the kernel, which is not much good unless you have a very specific version of X ....
<2> ok theBear
<0> prolly
<0> your machine isn't answering, convict
<2> hmm
<1> you should probably only hand out names/p***words and ip's in /msg's ...
<2> try now mack_sim
<2> ok
<3> hiya
<3> Gen21?
<4> good morning channel
<5> biteme
<5> err... typo...
<5> morning
<6> j000000
<7> hi
<6> hi
<7> i'm having some weird problems that seem to have started when i moved my server to the new house yesterday :(
<7> for some reason in x, every keystroke makes a like move from bottom to top really quick on my monitor
<7> doesn't seem to happen in console, though
<7> s/like/line
<7> and all of a sudden sound doesn't work either
<4> haha
<4> goodnight Freman
<7> and i'm not sure if it was an emerge -u problem cuz i upgraded like 2-3 times before i got around to rebooting this last time
<7> i know sound & video were working fine before i came here, though, and i didnt drop my computer during the move or anything...
<7> aww crap
<7> actually, i did kinda knock it around a bit cuz the cpu fan started getting all loud and **** :(
<0> try re-seating everything
<0> then, and only then, try and see if anything related to the fbcon has been changed by emerge
<8> yeah!
<8> cuz you **** at seating!
<0> and you at English, pal
<0> I meant the boards
<8> Give him a broadside, smead!
<4> heh
<4> i hate moving my boxes
<0> they shoudl just stay where they are. with always-on Internet, there's no reason to move
<0> I'm seriously thinking about renting a rack
<0> tired of all this hardware maintenance thing
<8> I actually found a small pile of sawfust that had collected up against the side of the one I have in the closet ;)
<8> I guess the airflow in there is such that it picked it up off the ground and set it down accordingly.
<8> over time.
<8> rent-a-rack
<4> id rather get my own rack
<8> If I did that, I'd have to get rackmount cases instead of what I have now.. seems like a signficant financial investment.
<8> for something that wont drastically change my environment
<4> yup
<4> i would love to have rack mount boxen
<8> 2 boxes, in a closet, nice and safe.. warmer than standard, but not too hot operating conditions...
<4> my sparc will technically fit in a rack
<8> they're fine.
<4> when i buy a house it'll have a rack
<4> but its so damn big
<4> it might as well sit on the floor
<8> I may.... tack on 5 grand to my loan to finance items such as wiring, etc
<4> any idea if a properly done cabling job adds much equity?
<8> of course, in 3 years... the place I have will have to have fiber
<8> if it doesnt yet, it will at some point.
<4> damn, you're probably right
<4> 3 years isnt so far off
<8> See, the cabling job is nothing without the devices to make it go.... you'd have to have a box in the garage or somewheres where the switch and router and modem go
<8> that.. all in working condition.. might.
<4> but how long has 100mbit been pretty much it
<8> I'll never wire my house with 100mbit ;)
<8> but no, I mean
<8> in long beach, they're running residential fiber to 1500 homes
<4> i think copper will be fine for more than 3 years


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