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<0> sjk: Hi =)
<0> How have you been?
<1> sjk == FOOL
<2> hey sjk... I have a little question... what is the undernet policy about channel dispute? like when someone want to reg a channel and you aprove it... but later on that person decide to take over the channel? because it almost happened to me... luckilly it was only a troublemaker...
<3> A****aka: i think the chanowner, after its registered, wouldn't give access to the troublemaker
<2> there was no access to that troublemaker
<2> he just claimed things...
<2> but it raised me some questions...
<3> wll, for such things, the chanowner have to decide
<2> yeah, but if it was the case, I mean the troublemaker was right
<2> it would have mean that the take over was close... so I wonder what I could have done to revert the thing...
<2> I think that once the chan is regged there is nothing possible anymore...
<3> can't you post a complain on the cservice site?
<4> ieks, davidf
<5> hello everybody.
<5> is it possible in gentoo to backup the entire file system and the restore it to another machine?
<0> tar
<5> I am building a infokiosk and I have istalled the prototype and now I need a way to replicate this instalation on more machines.
<5> the machines are hardware indentical.
<0> tar
<5> is it possible to create a instalation CD that will do this?
<0> Probably.
<5> I know tar is a way of doing it.
<5> I guess I could backup the entire hda. and the on the new machine to untar it?
<0> Yes.
<5> is it possible to work like that.
<0> Yes.
<0> You'll have to do all of the partitioning, though.
<0> And set up grub or whatever.
<0> But that's easy enough.
<5> and I think that on the new instalation I will be forced to re run the grub instalation ?
<5> yes that's easy.
<5> I just spent 4 day configuring the machine and I dont like to spend so much for the others.
<5> should I backup /proc or /dev?
<5> i guess not? right?
<5> or should I only excule the /proc.
<5> I think /dev will not be recreated by the operating system.
<5> or am I wrong?
<0> Probably correct.
<0> Haven't ever done something like this =)
<2> davidf: don't tar the device
<0> Ah, A****aka is the one to talk to about tarring =)
<2> boot with a livecd, mount your gentoo, then cd to it then tar -zcvpf /path/to/backup.tar.gz *
<2> and have fun to see it make a niiice big file
<2> then on the destination, mount the drives, cd to it, tar -zxvpf /path/to/backup.tar.gz
<2> then run lilo or grub
<2> and voila
<2> (I did it a few days ago)
<2> actually, I didn't used -z so I ended up with a 16 gigs tar file :)
<5> well my /dev/hda3 is 4 gb the is the /
<5> A****aka what about the /proc
<2> don't mount proc or dev
<5> this also recreated at boot ..
<5> right.
<2> not recreated, it's a virtual filesystem
<2> it's not on any disk, but come from the kernel memory itself...
<2> so yeah, they will magically appear
<5> ok I thought of that.
<5> anyway is it possible to create a more automatic instaltion from this backup?.
<5> i guess I can do it with some simple scripts. and put everythig on a DVD
<5> and then just boot with the dvd and the run my script.
<2> yeah, it's possible, once you have the tar file it's simply fdisk, mkfs, mount, cd to it, untar and set up the boot loader
<5> ok then.
<5> thanks for advices
<5> I will give it a try.
<5> o I still have one last question
<2> the only reason why you can't do it on the live filesystem is because of the /dev...
<2> but there is a way... just a pita :)
<5> after I untar the system I have to chroot to it and after that I setup grub right?
<2> yes
<2> basically, what the gentoo team did for the stage3 file is what you will do
<2> but your would be more like stage4
<2> :)
<4> ;)
<4> loookkk ooouuuttt beellooww!
<4> *CRUMP*
<4> ow :(
<6> lordy
<5> yes that's true.
<5> thanks A****ak for your advices.
<2> don't forget the -p in tar
<2> or you will lose every file permission and owners...
<7> dont forget to pee in the tar
<4> Stop staring at the monkeys$~$#@%
<2> <-- Forger has quit (Quit: I want to die in my sleep like my grampa, not screaming and yelling like the p***engers in his car)
<2> nice quit
<8> indeed
<1> rofl
<9> lol
<4> Sup kernel26.
<4> quand vous retournez, apporter les tartes!
<10> tetb
<10> n
<10> tetn
<11> wtf?
<10> tetn
<10> rrrr
<10> jummy
<4> I'm running off with the mailman.
<4> hey autom4ke
<4> pop
<12> xmms-disk-writer
<12> err
<12> note to self: icecast relay streaming works better if you stop and check for firewalls
<13> heh.. anal cunt (band) covered the theme from the A-team :)
<12> that's a bad band name for /np (c:
<13> it suits them... they're kinda punk and noise and stuff.... sometimes its too much for even me
<12> http://thedailywtf.com/
<12> read through the first post
<6> brb
<14> hey -- i have a default layout and configuration of terms that I setup on one of my virtual desktops in KDE...is there any way to save this, so it automatically returns after a reboot?
<6> sailing
<15> hail
<15> know how the /etc/cred file works for samba mounts?
<16> hello
<16> how do i change the screen resolution? thanks
<4> hi cyclic
<14> hey
<14> I'm creating a new partition for my root filesystem on my normal workstation -- I have used ReiserFS in the past, but just wanted to know if any of you guys are strongly for or against it (since now would be the time to change)
<3> reiserfs is good
<16> cyclic, why did you choose reiserfs in the first place?
<14> i was reading the gentoo handbook, and it seemed to have good things to say
<14> but I was here one time, and a guy was saying it was terrible for reliability, etc
<3> guess that was zaei
<16> cyclic, some of my friends use reiserfs and they like it so far, me im stuck in ext3
<15> dont use ricerfs on sparc
<14> im just using standard x86
<15> zaei only uses it for portage cache
<15> it hink
<2> don't use reiserfs unless you want to lose your data
<14> heh, see, thats what I was looking for...why do you say that A****aka?
<2> reiserfs is only good with small files... I think of less than 4k or so
<14> what should I use instead? just ext3?
<2> bigger than that you have no speed advantage
<2> yeah use ext3
<2> I lost 80 gig of data due to reiserfs
<14> what happened>
<14> how do you know its reiserfs' fault?
<14> what the hell...? :
<14> localhost ~ # mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/boot/
<14> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext3'
<14> how is that possible?
<2> well, when a filesystem constantly switch 2 of your files
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