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<0> cause it runs as root
<0> you lost me there
<1> I just don't get why you guys don't just do your thing as root, when needed, and then just add extra pivs to wheel users
<0> a-evol: say again?
<2> sudo can still look thru its config, and say if the user is root, do not allow them to sudo....
<0> # User privilege specification
<0> root ALL=(ALL) ALL
<0> I have that in the sudoers file
<3> sudo is good for running services you don't want running as root.
<0> so root should have access to anything
<2> ok....
<2> hmm... /me thinks everyone's ears are glued shut.... coulda sworn we were talking about sudo for the last half hour... well i left for 20 mins... but still
<1> now, that's not a good thing eighter todo you see Raptor
<1> limit root as well :)
<1> but I've never been a sudo fan
<0> one step at a time



<0> I just need to run su/sudo screen command on startup
<0> can anyone help me with that?
<0> I've tried basically anything anyone said here so far, it doesn't work :(
<0> example:
<2> hmm.... ok
<0> sudo -u hlds screen -A -m -d -S hlds /home/hlds/HLDSteam/hlds_run -game cstrike +mapchangecfgfile "server.cfg" +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 20 -insecure -nomaster
<2> ~ # su bear -c screen -d -m sh
<0> adding that to /etc/conf.d/local.start does nothing
<2> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/4' - please check.
<0> I get that aswell
<2> hmm... when i do sudo -u bear -c screen -d -m sh it works
<0> oh
<0> you need to do -c ?
<0> for sudo ?
<2> oh.. no
<2> i didn't do the -c
<2> everything but that
<4> try su bear -c screen -- -d -m sh
<0> same
<2> Freman, nothing... the sudo worked but su p***es some bogus terminal device by the look of things
<0> su doesn't p*** all the args
<2> either way.... ~ # sudo -u bear screen -d -m sh
<2> works here... so i'm done
<0> ok try it further
<0> sudo -u bear screen -d -m sh some command with args
<2> interesting... screen won't let me reattach that from anywher
<2> you try it further... see if that works for you with your user
<4> you'll have to specify it explicitly
<4> but yeh... su <name> - -c screen -- -d -m sh should defidently work
<2> whats with the -- ?
<4> from the man page:
<4> You can use the -- argument to separate su options from the arguments
<4> supplied to the shell.
<2> interesting....
<2> i always liked just using excessive quotes in things like local.start....
<0> wow
<0> I think it worked
<0> gimme a sec :/
<0> I have no clue what I did to make it work 5 mins ago, but I can't do it again :(
<2> you broke it inside of 5 minutes !!?!?!!?
<4> hmmm windows user
<5> =D
<6> :o)
<0> no
<0> I made it work once
<0> then tried to apply it to the local.start file
<2> then you broke it
<0> rebooted and it hasn't worked since
<2> oh... thats easy.... use more/different quotes...
<0> define more/different
<0> or give an example
<0> ok
<0> I think I have it
<0> /path/program name -params doesn't work
<0> instead I cd to the path and run ./program
<0> I think that's the answer
<4> --
<5> =D
<6> :o)
<0> let's see if it works



<2> hmm... so does anyone know how metalog config works ? does a log-line get sent to the first log/rule that it matches, or does it get sent to ALL the rules/logs that it matches ?
<7> Ewww, metalog.
<0> yay!
<0> that did the trick
<0> cd-ing to the working dir
<0> and then running sudo
<0> :)
<0> thanks guys!
<2> zaei, what in the hell do you strongly recommend then ?
<6> :-)
<4> that has been known to help
<5> =)
<6> :o)
<4> metalog is pretty damned good... cept has no remote logging
<7> theBear: In general, syslog-ng.
<4> syslog-ng is what I use
<7> But I don't know what you're doing with it =)
<7> metalog buffers =(
<7> =( =( =( =..(
<2> buffers are cool when there aren't problems... and one SIG can make it not buffer
<4> I might re-format this laptop over easter
<4> it's feeling paifully sluggish, a fresh install with more care to what flags I use might help
<2> i'm gonna re-do my laptop this week... got a shiny new 40g drive ready to go and all... as usual i'm just indecisive about the last few things to build in the chroot, and whether to do a dual boot windowz or just hope that 200mhz pentium can do a win4lin session usably <grin>
<2> at least its got a lotta ram and a shiny fast new harddrive
<7> My laptop would be faster with more ram, I think.
<7> Though ever since I switched to ion from windowmaker, things have been faster.
<2> this one became sorta cool when it jumped from 24M to about 300....
<3> i don't deal well with lappies.
<2> i sorta got this wifi thing going yesterday, but i still can't quite convince the pda to connect to the ndiswrapper card... it half-connects and says the network is available, but never sets its own ip... so i wanna get the laptop working with the card i've got for it (should work with native madwifi) and test with that too
<2> at least the experimental ebuild installs the drivers o.k... the old (stable) one doesn't copy half the ****....
<2> my head hurts.. i might need a little nap first.... went to work thismorning, but no-one was there, there were no supplies i had been waiting for, and the 2 people who might know whats going on BOTH had their mobiles switched off.... oh well... i asked the dogs what was going on but they didn't know
<3> sounds like a small or weird company.
<2> yeah... we're between premises... working at the bosses house round the corner this week.. well, except today it would seem
<2> gonna have a big shiny warehouse soon, and soon after that we will have built lots of rooms including a nice office or two and workshop or 2 for me... probly some kind of server room too :)
<3> server room? nah, stick those in my office so i can keep an eye on 'em.
<2> pfft ! if i'm gonna have servers i didn't find discarded in an alleyway, they're gonna be well taken care of :)
<3> thats what security cabinets are for.
<2> maybe... but they aren't airconditioned
<3> just don't use a knife to cut the keys off.
<7> Just get a safe, and drill a small hole in the back for power and ethernet =P
<3> thats easily fixable.
<2> nah... i like the idea of a little room.... out of the way, discreet...
<3> thats just asking to fry it all zaei.
<8> AHAHAHAHAHAHA you should look at my command line :)
<2> i sure hope its abbusive
<9> theBear: !!
<8> 107 lines :)
<3> now playing [Static-X - I Want To ****ing Break It] length[2:45]
<9> xmms ****s and so does spamming a channel with your **** music
<8> traumahound: I already pressed enter
<2> pinkerton, !!~~~
<2> spamming the channel with **** music does kinda ****
<9> traumahound: thats not an opinion that is a fat
<9> fact
<9> keep your **** to yourself
<2> no, this is a fat
<3> who pissed in your cornflakes?
<9> it's on the same level as a global away
<9> nicotine withdrawl
<2> maybe higher
<3> oh.
<3> have a day.
<7> pinkerton: Go eat some food =)
<2> what a bitch
<2> go eat some babies
<7> Mmmmm, babies.
<9> actually
<9> i'm back at it
<9> but still
<2> haven't caught up yet :)
<9> death to all!


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