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<0> hah
<1> ok, fresh new gentoo install underway
<1> gotta kill some time...
<2> if I get my way I'm going to need gnap so I can have my self distructing baby
<3> hay Jo|nt
<4> hey
<4> need some help to install gentoo
<2> I've read your mind, no-one here can help you
<4> thx Freman
<2> no seriously, how can you expect help, without saying where you're having a problem?
<4> I said I need help to see if anyone would have time and would want to help me..
<5> let microsoft knock on my door about a box that came without an operating system.
<2> but without knowing the nature of the problem we don't know how much time it would take to help you
<4> The installer stops at the point it says "unpacking services"or something like this,and says install failed
<2> ah, you're using the graphical installer
<2> in which case I can't help you, never used it
<4> ok
<5> last i heard the gui was a bit flakey.
<4> thx guys,good nite
<3> what a nice man
<2> think I was hard on the fella?
<3> knows
<5> wonder what kinda lawsuit is gonna be brought against M$ with all this "don't sell PCs without operating systems" crap?
<2> hehe (C:
<2> I've never bought a whole pc
<5> only once.
<2> are they going to start selling me $600 hard disks with windows pre-installed?
<5> and the first thing i did was format the hd.
<5> no, M$ wants to put people on the street checking into these boxes sold without operating systems.
<5> they ever wanna see mine its gonna "come back with a warrant or court order"
<2> they're not the ones you have to worry about anyway
<2> most people who just buy old boxes without an os on them want linux machines
<5> but thats no excuse to microsoft.
<2> people who build boxes on the other hand may want a high end windows gaming machine
<5> good luck finding that for a reasonable price and exactly what you want.
<5> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39261437,00.htm
<5> "Supplying base systems, or 'naked PCs', is a missed opportunity, according to Michala Alexander, Microsoft's head of anti-piracy." that right there is all its about... it was sold without windows and they don't like that.
<3> Wasn't expecting mirage_!
<6> blah
<3> Hi yo~
<3> I'm a doctor not a work.
<6> Yeah, you're not a work, you're a piece of work Psych
<0> heh heh
<7> Autie: still there?
<7> I ran into problems
<0> m$ has *never* liked that
<7> I'm getting permission denied upon reboot :/
<0> the naked pc bit
<6> they're not really hinting that MS is going to "leverage the monopoly" in regards to naked PCs
<7> when I add this to /etc/conf.d/local.start
<7> su hlds screen -A -m -S hlds /home/hlds/HLDSteam/hlds_run -game cstrike +mapchangecfgfile "server.cfg" +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 20 -insecure -nomaster
<7> I get /usr/bin/screen: permission denied
<7> upon reboot
<7> anyone got a clue as to why?
<6> What user is it being run as?
<7> hlds
<7> thus the su hlds
<7> as Autie pointed out earlier
<0> m$ says they will cease to give system builders vendor discounts if they sell 'naked' pcs
<7> [23:40:12] <Autie> Raptor: in /etc/conf.d/local.start : su user command
<8> don't you want sudo not su ?
<7> I have no clue what sudo is?
<8> super user do
<7> I don't have sudo
<7> do I just emerge sudo ?
<8> come to think of it, why are you trying to run counterstrike with screen ?
<8> its a good idea... sudo is handy
<6> HeppyCat: that's not how I read it...
<7> to see the output using putty from my other pc
<8> oh..... errr... o.k...
<7> I have a screenless, keyboardless pc running gentoo
<0> that was the issue a couple years ago
<0> same with vendors selling linux pcs
<7> so instead of su I do what?
<7> sudo and the rest is unchanged?
<8> i'd try sudo -u username command ...
<7> lemme emerge sudo first and see what -u does
<8> it does username
<8> oh... and your one is wrong too....
<7> how?
<8> should be su -c COMMAND username
<7> well not my fault :)
<6> HeppyCat: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=182285&cid=15067670
<7> I wrote it exactly how I was instructed to
<7> sudo -u hlds screen -A -m -S hlds /home/hlds/HLDSteam/hlds_run -game cstrike +mapchangecfgfile "server.cfg" +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 20 -insecure -nomaster
<7> does that look right to you?
<8> also you could try using a path to specify screen... yeah... that looks ok
<6> you should use the -c option to su...
<7> okay lemme reboot it and see what it does
<7> brb
<8> wait
<8> test it by hand first
<8> no use rebooting to type one line... get it working then test it with a reboot
<6> good point
<6> if he even has sudo... on a lot of systems it's not installed by default.
<8> earlier he said he would emerge it
<6> OK
<7> cannot open your terminal /dev/console - please check
<7> that's what I'm getting
<7> :/
<8> oh.... maybe screen doesn't like being run without a controlling terminal...
<7> ok now what?
<8> how about just using putty to ssh in each time you wanna play, then manually starting the server AND watching the output ?
<7> well
<7> I want this server to be on 24/7
<7> even if the power goes out, I want it to run on each startup
<8> or running it without screen and with logging turned on, when you wanna monitor the output use tail -f /var/log/mylog
<8> obviously it seems to be screen causing the problems...
<7> I wanna be able to use the server console
<7> to change stuff
<8> is it ONLY available on the console that started the server ?
<0> there isnt a 'server -console' switch to connect to a running server?
<7> I have no clue
<7> you really shouldn't be asking me questions, I'm the basic definition of a n00b :)
<8> then check it out... there's gotta be a more sensible way than what your trying to do....
<7> if that were an option I'm sure I would have read about it
<7> but basically everyone uses screen
<7> :/
<6> Are you just trying to read stderr and stdout?
<7> no
<7> I'm trying to interact with a running server
<7> sudo -u hlds screen -A -m -d -S hlds /home/hlds/HLDSteam/hlds_run -game cstrike +mapchangecfgfile "server.cfg" +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 20 -insecure -nomaster
<7> that does NOTHING
<7> I have no clue why
<7> running it as root
<7> I get no messages but it starts nothing
<8> you sure it starts nothing ?
<7> yes
<7> ps -al shows just ps
<8> what about aux
<8> or ax
<7> what doest hat do? :D
<6> or ps waux
<8> shows more stuff
<6> You'll need to pipe it through grep...
<7> nope
<7> no trace of screen
<6> do something like "ps waux | grep screen"
<7> or hlds for that matter
<8> hmmm.....
<7> hlds@raptor2 ~ $ ps waux | grep screen
<7> hlds 7077 0.0 0.1 1516 476 pts/1 S+ 23:57 0:00 grep --color=auto screen
<7> hlds@raptor2 ~ $
<6> Take out the -d option to screen, that applies only if there's a running screen
<7> can someone translate that?
<7> it's ignored if there's no other screen
<7> I just read the man on it
<7> I tried w/o it
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