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<0> hey
<0> i installed fedoraa core 5 a couple days ago and ive been having a lot of problems
<0> the mod_auth_dbm.so is missing from my modules dir and it looks like thats part of the apache core package
<0> is that right or am i reading things wrong
<1> hello



<2> hi
<2> the box has done booting and i forgot to check if my fedora core2 has detected this new nic i plugged.is there a manual to check if i have new nic plugged or how many nics plugged inside my fc2 box?
<3> how can i install some perl modules
<3> example Digest::SHA1
<4> Y2-K with cpan
<5> how can I see how much banfwitch is being used on my server
<6> nkr: iftop , nload
<7> redline: please disable your away script
<7> once is fine, but every hour is unnecessary
<4> oohw
<4> okey
<4> :P
<7> thank you :)
<8> Hi
<8> is FC3 still maintained ?
<7> gribouille: http://fedoralegacy.org/
<8> ok, thx
<8> the version of apache bundled with FC5 is 2.2. Is it possible to get a 2.0 version ?
<8> more generally, how is it possible to get older rpm packages for fedora ?
<7> I guess you could get fc4 source packages and build binaries from them for certain things
<7> fedora tends to go bleeding edge with things
<7> this isn't for a production server is it?
<8> Fiver, no, it isn't
<7> ok good.. I wouldn't use fedora in production :)
<8> Fiver, really ? what would you use ?
<7> anything but fedora.. lo
<7> lol
<7> personally I run CentOS on my servers
<8> Fiver, that's the same as redhat, isn't it ?
<7> fedora focuses more on bleeding edge than stability, and has a very short lifecycle, which makes it, imo, ill suited for production
<7> yes, centos is built directly from RHEL source
<8> Fiver, does centos have up-to-date packages ?
<7> it uses yum rather than up2date, but it does provide updates



<8> Fiver, is it free ?
<7> it's very actively maintained. as soon as rh releases an update, then download the source and start building and testing
<7> yes, it's free
<7> s/then/they/
<8> Fiver, the updates too ?
<7> yes
<7> everything about it is free
<7> but no phone support of course
<7> however the mailing list and irc channel are quite active
<8> Fiver, do you know where the updates are available ?
<7> the centos updates?
<7> from the centos and centos mirror servers..
<7> you can simply "yum update" out of the box, just like in fedora
<8> Fiver, I just wanted to see if the packages are up-to-date
<7> what is your definition of "up-to-date" ?
<8> Fiver, I don't have any in fact
<8> Fiver, maybe no more than one year old
<7> RHEL focuses on stability, security and reliability.. if you want the latest version of everything, you're going to compromise one or more of those ideas, so RHEL is usually not using the very latest, and in doesn't do major version upgrades within a release
<7> so if RHEL2 was released with say apache 1.2.x some years ago, they will never offer apache 2.x as an "upgrade" .. apache 2.x will be included in a subsequent RHEL, like 3 or 4 instead
<8> how long is the release cycle ?
<7> 18 months iirc
<7> but the support cycle is 7 years
<7> whereas fedora's release cycle is 9 months, but the support cycle is only 18 months
<8> how long is a package tesed before including in RHEL ?
<7> that I don't know.. I'm not a redhat employee :)
<7> there may be some information about that on their web site, I'm not sure
<8> Fiver, with centos, is it possible to get more recent packages ?
<7> for some things, yes
<7> there is a centos-plus repository that has centos packages that are not part of RHEL
<7> centos4 for example came with php4. you can find php5 in the centos-plus repository.
<7> naturally there is some degree of risk in using such packages, but the centos team is pretty good about testing and minimizing potential issues
<7> this is not really different from the risks in doing major version upgrades in any distro
<7> look at how old the packages in debian "stable" have been at times
<6> redline: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
<9> anyone who could tell me why my apache webserver isnt allowed to write to files and cant chmod from php scripts in directories that already is chmodded 0777 and I've tried both chown the root www folder as root and apache.. non works.. I'm using Fedora Core 5.. please help me.. =S
<10> I installed FC5 onto a Harddrive and formatted the partitions /boot and /, On the second drive i had data so i left them alone and now users are unable to access them from vsftp or samba.
<6> lol He could have given someone atleast a minute to think about
<9> anyone who could give me the command for shuttin of selinux? as well as starting it again.. just want to check if that is causing me problems..


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