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<0> I work in alzhiemers
<1> for sure ... then you know, Jill_Pa :(((
<2> applause for the care aides, doctors and nurses
<0> yes
<0> thanks plummy
<3> there should be more
<1> the lady I am working with now doesn't have much time ... and she is very lucid ...
<2> ugh
<1> thank you, jonathan- .. appreciate that
<0> that is hard
<2> hope she have it painless
<1> yes it is - and it doesn't get easier .. harder on her
<2> i prefer if people p*** away while asleep
<1> at least she is not in pain - that helps
<0> yes that is a blessing
<1> but she has a dnr - and is at home
<0> well all you can do is help her have a good ending to her life
<1> for sure - and she has become such a friend to me .. going to miss her a lot!
<0> yes i know what you are saying
<3> I dont think I d ever say that I d prefer if someone p***es away in sleep or not
<1> however, the community care nurse told me .. be sure to get a ref from the family as there are many in her situation ... and I would rather do that than in a facility
<4> wow I havent slept all night
<0> Hi MrBear
<1> hey there, MrBear ... why not?
<3> we are talking about a human being
<4> lol watching movies
<1> hmmm ok
<4> how are you ladies?
<0> im good MrBear
<3> it s just not right to say that
<0> how are you?
<1> it's ok, jonathan- ... my client wishes that, herself
<4> ok I guess
<1> yep, MrBear .. ok :)
<3> you can t prefer someone else s demise
<1> nobody can, jonathan- ... only one that can do that ... doesn't reside here on earth!
<0> thats
<0> thats right Anneeee
<3> it s like saying I m glad she or he is dead
<4> just a bit sad I guess
<1> sometimes, I am, jonathan- .. if there is pain or suffering
<1> when my mother left us - she had a lot of suffering and when she p***ed away, it was a relief
<0> brb need more coffee
<1> hb, Jill_Pa :)
<3> sorry to hear that ann
<1> it happens that way sometimes, jonathan- .. not much that we, as humans can do about it - except to be honest!
<3> but I still don t believe that a relief can be achieved by it
<2> Anneeee, same thng with my grandmother
<1> for the survivors, yes it can! ... they still have the grief to go thru but it is a relief not to see their loved one suffering anymore
<1> for sure, plummy
<2> she had alzheimer and when she p***ed away we were just a lil sad. we saw it was coming and we were def relieved when she finally p***ed away
<5> how do u get poen site p***words
<2> good for her and us
<1> and one of the kindest things that we can do .. is to give them 'permission' to leave us
<2> yeah
<1> exactly, plummy ... !! <good for you>
<3> you guys just gave up
<1> and jonathan-? .. remember well that death is a part of life!
<4> well Im off goodnight
<1> no ... never give up, jonathan- ..
<0> you are right Annee
<2> it is inevitable
<1> nighters, MrBear :)
<0> night Bear
<3> I mean I understand what you are saying
<2> jonathan-, it is not us who gave up
<2> it was them
<2> because they knew it was time
<2> so they let go
<1> sometimes, they simply don't have the strength to carry on
<3> but we never give up until it s done
<2> of course
<6> hi to all:)
<1> no we don't .. but part of my work as a palative worker is to help comfort the patient
<3> and relief is not a word to use to describe what is happening to a loved one
<1> and that includes comforting them when they have given up
<7> Let it be be hun
<6> & belated happy new year to allllllll
<8> 21 M HERE ,,,, ANYONE WANNA CHAT?
<2> is it a sin to feel relieved when it finally ended?
<1> ... guess it's in your definition then, jonathan- ...
<2> it is not like you stop loving
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<2> !teabag redmou
<1> it is no sin, plummy ... none whatsoever :)
<2> i didn't think either
<1> thanks, plummy ... needed that .. thought I was going to have to type between the lines lol
<2> np :)
<3> when you fell relieved it s like a burden that was taken away from you and that burden as you guys tell is a loved one
<3> and we just can t say that
<10> ok
<10> where is it?
<1> sometimes, that is true, jonathan- .. there are many different scenarios
<2> jonathan- it is different
<10> i heard rumours about interesting chat :P
<2> nosey
<1> lol Sagat
<10> hey hey
<2> i think it is mixed
<1> ... as every single person is different .. and it goes without saying that both their lives and their deaths will be different, as well
<10> as long as no work is required i'll be opped
<10> but only then :P
<2> it is almost impossible to feel only feeling at a time
<2> lazy ***
<1> lol plummy
<2> +one
<2> just of a matter of weighing
<2> or at some point balancing
<2> and also
<3> I understand quite well what you are saying, that the person in question is in agony and suffers
<2> it is just a matter of opinion
<1> for sure, many do, jonathan- ... and don't EVER think that I believe in euthanasia .. I don't ..
<10> hmm
<10> i haven't seen the whole of this thing
<2> at some point i do, only reason is to stop the suffering
<0> Anneee You are the kind of person i would enjoy working with
<10> but euthanasia is something i do support
<1> however, when a person is so ill and they cannot handle life's trials any further, sometimes, they just WANT to leave ...
<1> awwwwwwwww thank you, Jill_Pa .. appreciate that
<2> definitely don't want to see a loved one stripped of her beauty, lividness and spirit
<2> p***ed away
<1> there is no quality of life in that, plummy ...
<2> so i'll go for euthenasia
<2> yeah
<2> better end it
<10> the hard cases ofcourse are
<3> but still we keep hope as we should and not be callous saying that I hope she or he will die soon
<2> of course
<1> and when quality of life has left ... the person left lying on that bed, knows it
<10> when the person in question, is not able to say what he or she wants
<2> it is not like you're going to give euthenasia to someone who fall off a tree and broke a leg
<2> :P
<3> you have to consider sometimes what the person is going through
<10> depends, am i in the will? *eg*
<2> hahaha
<1> believe me, jonathan- ... we DO!!!!!
<2> No
<0> I believe everyone should go in thier own time
<1> lolol Sagat .. only if ya marry me!
<1> precisely, Jill_Pa!!!
<2> o_O
<2> Ohh
<10> is that allowed in ya country plummers? *g*
<2> and if that push through
<2> I'll file a case
<2> BIGAMY!
<1> roflmao!
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