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<0> moo!
<0> you killed mrashe.
<1> heh
<1> don't tempt me :)
<2> is strtok(3) really obsoleted by strsep(3) ?
<1> where does it say that?
<2> man strtok
<1> no, it doesn't say that
<2> DESCRIPTION This interface is obsoleted by strsep(3).
<2> The strtok() function is used to isolate sequential tokens in a null-ter-
<1> you've made a false ***umption
<2> in a different flavor:
<1> a very, very bad false ***umption
<2> BUGS: Avoid using these functions. ...
<3> well
<2> dbtid: and which ***umption is that?
<1> that the OS you're using is the one that EVERYONE is using.
<3> everyone knows my_strtok_r() obsoleted strtok()
<1> i'm using OpenBSD 3.7
<3> ;-)
<2> i thought you were an openbsd weanie
<3> Elliot
<1> bah there it is!
<1> i missed it
<1> This interface is obsoleted by strsep(3).
<1> i doubt linux says that
<3> the fact that openbsd says that an interface is obsoleted
<1> but i'm too lazy to boot one up
<3> means that its no longer the one of choice for THIS os
<1> but like chat0n is saying
<3> not for all of the oses
<2> no, it says "avoid using these functions"
<1> it's obsoleted by theo
<1> not likely anyone else
<3> it should be avoided in openbsd
<2> and freebsd
<0> strsep isn't standard, so you won't find it everywhere as you would strtok or strpbrk or strcspn.
<2> so is this where autoconf might come into play?
<3> well
<3> yeah sortof
<3> or
<2> * i hate autoconf
<3> really ?
<3> use pmk then :-)
<3> i hate autoconf too
<3> and pmk works just fine for me
<4> pmk?
<4> url?
<2> http://pmk.sourceforge.net/
<0> let the hate spread, far and wide.
<3> haha
<3> yeah
<3> pmk doesnt do all the fancy stuff autoconf does
<3> but for conditionnal compilation and detection of features
<0> down with compiling the same test thousands of times to determine that int is still sizeof(int) bytes.
<3> it works just great
<4> "PMK is using same style of templates than autoconf. It"
<4> how is it better?
<0> imake just didn't get enough steam behind it.
<3> spale:
<3> spale: by template they mean you have a set of macros replaced
<3> mmh
<3> and i didnt say its better
<0> schily's smake is interesting, as well as at&t's iffe. but imake is superior, no need to test things that are already known.
<3> <3> and pmk works just fine for me
<4> ok, its yaacfcc
<4> yet another auto conf for c compilation
<4> mine works for me ;)
<2> linux has strsep also
<2> i suppose i can use it
<4> in what is it better?
<4> ah, it detects empty fields.
<4> Elliot, for such kind of function.. you can really write it yourself in a plain standart manner.
<4> its like 5 lines or so.
<0> Elliot: not much portability there. hopefully that is sufficient -- though it would be sad.
<2> it's portable enough-- i just make freebsd or netbsd one of my requirements
<0> sad. but as you like.
<4> come on Elliot lets write this function in your code.
<4> its really simple
<2> but there are two that exist already
<4> so use strtok
<4> its standart
<1> "standard"
<4> thanks ;)
<4> 't' is french. I always mix both.
<3> you are french ?
<4> no
<4> but french is my mother language.
<4> I'm swiss.
<3> really ?
<3> you
<1> a one-man melting pot :)
<3> got to send me chocolate
<4> lol
<3> *right away*
<1> i've got german, italian, polish and irish
<4> dbtid, nice ;)
<4> french, swissgerman (kind of horrible local dialect), english, german
<4> chat0n, where are you ?
<4> (dont answer "on IRC")
<1> he's in paris iirc
<1> "gay paris"
<3> spale: paris
<4> was there a few weeks ago
<3> oh
<4> at the FRnOG meeting.
<3> if you had come to my place, i had beers and a barbecue
<3> ;-)
<3> FRnOG ?
<4> French Network Operators Group
<4> www.frnog.org
<4> I'm somehow, co-founder of it even if I'm not french ;p
<3> it isnt affiliated to CERT rigt ?
<4> nope.
<4> "FRnOG is not a legal entity. There is no formal membership or organisation, and no fees."
<3> ok
<4> basicly its a mailing list + 2-3 meetings a year.
<4> you're in networking?
<3> what do you mean by ' in networking '
<4> if you work with networks... IP
<5> what words can i use for identifier: 1x1wert, _MyVar, v01, for, Hilfe ?
<5> all without for, is that right ?
<4> Jackson_83, in which school are you?
<3> well i work with networks
<5> because for is reserved in c
<3> but im not working for an ISP
<3> ;-)
<4> Jackson_83, why do you ask if you know?
<5> i'm not sure
<6> Jackson_83: you can always get a compiler and try those out
<4> chat0n, you're also coding with networking?
<5> k
<7> Well... one of those is reserved but the compiler doesn't have to complain.
<7> So testing them with a compiler won't necessarily catch all bugs.
<3> spale, yeah a lot
<4> Jackson_83, you're in a german school right?
<4> chat0n, I love it ;)
<5> sure
<4> chat0n, I'm fan of kqueue on freebsd
<3> i havent done much kernel yet
<3> im still reading design and implementation of the freebsd OS
<3> ;-)
<3> i mostly code userland
<0> only two of them cause problems. easily caught with a test.
<4> chat0n, kqueue is userland. its a waaaaay enhanced equivalent of select()
<3> oh
<3> kevents !
<4> chat0n, you can handle 20'000 sockets events with 20% cpu on a P3 1Ghz
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