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<0> The SYSTEM has to support THIS functionality.
<0> I have no idea precisely what they mean by a "conceptual requirement relative to a SRS" is
<0> s/is//
<1> no, that was my terming
<1> what is a conceptual requirement
<0> i have no idea
<1> lol, me neither
<1> that was my main question...
<0> a requirement is a requirement: something that is required.
<1> functional requirments i've had
<1> but conceptual?!
<0> requirements exist on many levels: documentation requirements (content, style), functional system-level requirements, code structure requirements, etc etc etc
<1> performance
<1> yeah i know
<0> look around for a book :)
<1> #C IS MY BOOK
<1> :(
<0> we're not so much into "software engineering" as our topic as we are "C"
<0> "What's your C question?"
<0> see?
<0> :)
<0> different companies (managers, etc) have different ideas about such things
<2> :> see http://www.laputan.org/mud/mud.html for actual example
<1> Ugh, I hate writing SRS
<3> guys.. newbie in C here
<3> in need of recommendations for a compiler
<3> and tutorials web
<0> what OS are you using?
<3> any help would be highly apreciated
<3> windows
<0> i'd start by recommending a different OS :)
<0> c-bot compilers
<4> dbtid, unsure on that one...
<3> haha.. its actually ermmm lets say
<3> uni syllabus
<0> c-bot free compiler
<4> dbtid, here you go: free compilers can be downloaded from http://www.compilers.net/ | http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/
<3> and im a new student mate
<3> so they will b teaching inc
<3> so i wanted to get a head start
<0> do they have recommendations?
<3> i couldnt get in touch with the lecturer
<0> if it's done at a uni, i bet they'll be using linux or something like that
<3> its actualy like this.. im moving into a new uni by means of transfer of credits
<3> direct into second yr
<3> its at a UK uni
<0> (this means nothing to me)
<3> they did C in first yr.. for which i wasnt there
<3> indeed it doesnt.. but just had the thought of sharing
<3> :)
<0> well, i'd look into getting a free acount on a machine that runs linux. http://bylur.net/free IIRC has a list of such machines; there are many.
<3> so yeah.. just needed a good tutorials web
<0> and i'd start there.
<3> ok
<0> i don't believe too many people teach C under windows. it's not a good time.
<3> i'll log on right away
<3> i see i see
<0> if i had a jail set up, i'd create a VM for you somewhere to let you do that, but i don't
<0> so...
<3> hahaha
<0> twkm: you know, there's a market for you...
<0> IIRC IBM and HP have stuff set up for students where you can get a free account on a linux system on a mainframe...
<0> check around
<3> ok.. wats the web pae for
<3> so u mean
<0> you could also get vmware server from vmware
<3> i do all that on my machine
<0> and install your own linux UNDER windows using a virtual machine
<3> but in a linux envoirnment
<3> i see
<0> you run a program that creates a virtual machine, onto which you can install linux, or openbsd, or netbsd, or windows, or anything else...
<3> owh thats fantastic
<3> ok i'll create an a/c
<3> right away
<0> http://www.vmware.com
<0> look for "vmware server"
<0> it's quite large, though, so i hope you have a fast internet connection...
<3> nah my connection for the moement is 56kbps.. it will be 512 kbps in about 10 days
<0> http://www.jvds.com/freeshells/
<0> ok, there's a start
<3> ok im on it
<5> goofy-stud, cygwin could be a solution
<0> http://www.metawire.org/
<0> i used to have that service; it's nice
<0> EWWWW CYGWIN
<0> you could do that, too
<6> i agree eww cygwin
<0> set up is QUITE a pain though for a 56K connection
<3> hahah
<0> a hosted system is better in that case
<0> i recommend metawire, i liked it a lot
<5> dbtid, but you can work offline
<6> put your manpants on and install a useful operating system
<5> goofy-stud, do you pay when you're connected?
<0> http://freeshells.mtveurope.org/ looks OK
<0> spale: true enough
<3> i just neeed to do simple C programming at the moment
<3> yup i do spale
<3> soon i'll be on university campus and it'll be free
<5> goofy-stud, you'd better install something locally then, so you can work offline.
<5> goofy-stud, however, install cygwin might take some time..
<0> yeah, a looooong time
<5> 'some' ;)
<3> ok
<0> you could also do djgpp
<3> im actually reading the web for free shells
<0> which is gcc for windows (more or less) at the command line level.
<3> and how it states alot abt IRC
<5> goofy-stud, otherwise, dev-c++
<3> it takes time to understand mate
<5> dev-c++ includes MinGW
<3> ok..
<3> ive done Java before
<3> but not very skilled in it either
<3> but ive done object orientated programming in Java
<3> creating frames and stuff
<5> goofy-stud, dev-c++ is 7.5Mb full
<5> err
<5> 13.5 (version 5)
<3> ok
<7> isn't that MB ;)
<3> i'll do a google search on it
<3> its ok
<3> it doesnt matter even if its 20MB
<5> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dev-cpp/devcpp-4.9.9.2_setup.exe
<3> i can manage to d/l
<5> the webpage is http://www.bloods
<5> the webpage is http://www.bloodshed.net/dev/devcpp.html
<3> ok.. thanks alot dude
<8> anyone seen the "NO ROUTE TO HOST" message when trying to connect to a host?
<8> ...humm what does it mean?
<0> there's a connection down somewhere
<5> newbee, that mean a router on the path didnt knew what to do with your packet and told you so
<0> or your router config is messed up :)
<3> im now downloading dev-cpp 4.9.9.2
<8> strange, it appears no matter what host i try to connect to... must be something in my code?
<0> newbee: could be that, too...
<5> goofy-stud, it has a nice GUI and all, but you can use it on command line also. with wingw/gcc 3.4.2 including the gdb 5.2.1 (debugger)
<5> newbee, perhaps you connect to the wrong IP
<5> newbee, like... forget ntohl/htonl..
<5> forgot*
<5> newbee, linux ?
<3> the debugger is to help me find bugs wen i write my code.. is that it?
<5> goofy-stud, its used to do step-by-step execution. or to analyise core dump (crash of the program)
<5> newbee, you can try to strace the program to check to which IP/port it actually tries to connect to.
<8> wohooo folks, tried to telnet the server from terminal window, and same error appeared. ---> the error is not in my code!!
<5> newbee, eh ;)
<3> ok
<8> hehe makes ppl more liable to help me out:)
<3> so after i install my dec-cpp...
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