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<0> for them ya
<0> bds2006
<1> well theres going to be a new C++ standard soon so it kinda figures
<0> there is?
<2> Run you look like a smart guy around here.. where else should i put my question ? there has to be channel for borlandc on this network ..
<1> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2005/n1905.pdf
<3> what does this declaration inside a cl*** mean: double inner(const MyVector & w) const ?
<3> I know what MyVector &w is the address of an MyVector object
<3> const is to not change the content
<3> but what about the const at the end there?
<0> "early draft".."It's known to be incomplet(sic)"
<4> corstan: no, const MyVector& means a reference to a constant MyVector
<3> ok
<3> the address of a constant MyVector, no?
<4> double is the return type of the function, and the last const means it operates on const instances of the cl***



<5> corstan the const at the end says the function will NOT modify the cl***
<4> no, a reference to a constant MyVector
<3> hm, ok
<5> Kniht he asked about the LAST const
<0> its a member function declaration
<5> corstan you need some good books
<5> I recommend the books at http://rudbek.com/books.html
<3> yes
<4> const rule = The keyword "const" modifies what it is after, unless there is nothing, in which case it modifies what it is before. Thus, the type "const int" is a special case and means the same as "int const". See also: calc method const
<4> method const = Following `calc const rule`, a const method must have "const" after the function type. That is, like so: struct A { some_type Method( parameter_types & parameters ) const; }; /* and */ some_type A::Method( parameter_types & parameters ) const { /*...*/ }
<5> looking at random code you find on the web to try to learn C++ doesn't work well
<3> it's not random code
<3> it's a cl*** to do a vector things
<3> just considering to do that or use the template vector from STL
<0> use the std::vector
<5> corstan that's "random code"
<5> i.e. it was found by searching the web
<3> vawjrwrk, no, it was not found my searching the www
<3> it's in my lecture notes
<5> that may be worse
<3> really?
<0> heh worse random kode for a lecturer
<3> whatever, I'll use std::vector
<5> corstan what kind of stuff are yo doing again?
<3> sparse matrix library in C/C++
<5> one exists in the boost library
<3> solving those equations
<5> for C++ that is
<4> a map<unsigned,map<unsigned,T> > goes a long way for most sparse needs
<6> * You were kicked from #C++ by X ((bealtine) bye)
<3> confused with arrays and indexing :)
<3> ?
<0> n00b tennis?
<7> I guess :)
<8> Weird, my irc client says: * [[X]] You were kicked from #C++ by vawjrwrk etc.
<8> Note the 'You'
<4> he did /me You were...
<7> why is that of note?
<8> Ah...
<8> lol
<7> heh
<0> he pasted it
<8> Well, got me :p
<7> ah heh
<7> I don't really mind the nick, but pasting all that garbage and being a twit.. hmm :)
<0> it can be arranged if you're feeling left out:)
<3> jeez
<5> so now he want's to spam me in PM.... <sigh>
<0> lucky you
<7> yeah he did that to me too
<7> something about ****ing is "kur"
<7> to which I replied.. give me a microscope and maybe we'll see :]
<9> Swish: What language?
<7> I have no idea.
<7> he doesn't seem to speak proper english
<9> Can I see the whole sentence?
<7> that -was- the whole sentence. here's another: skapan ni zaeden makedonec gluup
<0> * [[Proxy]] <Vljubena> kade li se skri ???
<9> Haha.



<0> macedonia?
<9> Yup.
<7> translate? :)
<9> That happened IN here ?
<9> skapan ni zaeden makedonec glup -> "rotten, and stupid, macedonian"
<9> Something like that I'd say.
<7> heh
<9> kade li se skri -> "Where did you hide yourself?"
<8> Any group who sits with 2000 people on channel just to fight is stupid.
<7> sounds like he has issues with all those years of macedonian oppression
<8> one channel*
<8> It is unbelievable hard to find the source file that belongs to a given compilation unit, if all you have are source file names where things are declared - and you don't want to use the file extensions... I think I'll have to use the file extension after all.
<8> Would it be reasonable to ***ume that the main source file of any compilation unit ends on either .C, .cc or .cpp ?
<0> .cxx ?
<8> Ah, yes.
<0> probably catch 99% that way
<8> Things would stip working when people either use another extension, or when they #include files that end of one of these :/
<8> That is why I prefered not to rely on the extensions :/
<8> s/stip/stop/
<5> Run I've seen cxx used also
<0> i've used .inc too :)
<0> once in a drunken nightmare
<7> yeah and don't forget .c_plus_plus_code
<7> for those nights you want to forget
<5> doesn't boost use some thing for implementations
<5> found it... they use ipp for some header implementations
<0> iirc aTL uses some other extension too
<5> and I found some .inl.. standby I have a utility that collects extensions
<5> wow, ots of them
<5> err, lots
<10> vawjrwrk: hey, do you happen to know when your next result set will be available?
<3> int Jacobi (Vector& x, const MatSparse& m, const Vector& b, double tol, int maxit);
<3> if I am going to use std::valarray
<3> what do I change the const Vector& b to ?
<3> std::valarray<double> &b
<3> if I want to store doubles ?
<3> and also Vector& x
<3> std::valarray<double> &x
<0> one tip : learn about typedefs
<3> typedef std::valarray<double> Vector;
<3> ok
<0> i wouldnt call it Vector...
<5> _m_ resultset for what?
<10> regression tests.
<5> oh, MY system... geez, I think I'm still checking 3eveyr 30 minutes for changes
<5> you want me to have my wife check?
<10> I implemented a workaround for a VC++ problem with namespaces.
<10> Nah, it's not that important.
<3> bealtine, no?
<10> 3.5 hours is very fine for me.
<0> you really need a book
<5> well, occasionally cvs gets stuck and won't talk to me...I'll have her take a quick look
<3> bealtine, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndeepc/html/deep08032000.asp
<10> vawjrwrk: did you know VC++8 still doesn't get namespaces right?
<5> corstan what about it?
<5> _m_ I did NOT
<0> _M_ how so?
<10> This code demonstrates it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OpnO5y45.html
<5> though I just had an oddity happen in some code I just wrote, it looked like it was doing ADL "both ways"
<10> (it's part of a problem report someone sent to the Spirit list)
<0> uhuh
<5> i.e. it manged to recognize an unadorned "native" inside a boost::filesystem::path constructor
<11> heya vawjr
<10> bealtine: impressive bug, isn't it?
<0> weird ok
<0> i've always had troubles with nexted namespaces..now I know why:)
<5> namespaces are weird... if you put a using namespace blah inside another one, you get very odd coupling
<5> a couple books I have warn about doing that
<10> bealtine: it's more confusing. Apparently, that bug only exists at that specific nesting level.
<5> and imply that it's a "bad thing"
<10> (I didn't check it myself, though)
<5> I've never figured out exactly what doing it is "supposed" to do
<10> I usually advise people not to use any "using namespace blah" at namespace scope.
<5> it may even be that the sample program is correct


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