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<0> Logo?
<0> s/when I was 3/when I was 8
<0> 3 days, 8 years :D
<1> Take for example an ISP, i called one day to figure out what was going on
<1> and as soon as i mentioned ssh and telnet on the phone, she says : What's that ?
<0> Last time I called an ISP to tell them the whole DSL signal was down, they told me I should
<0> 1) reinstall windows
<0> 2) remove SP2
<0> 3) check my cables
<1> Ashe HAHAHAHA!
<0> Then I said "but I don't have any computer connected.. it's just the router"
<0> Actually, that's the only time I called an ISP
<1> same here
<0> The only other place when I communicated with an ISP is when they called me to tell me I no longer have internet access cause I hacked them
<1> one time, was my first and my last after whatever pointless issues i heard from her mouth.
<1> Ashe HAHAHAHAHA!
<0> (and I "hacked" them by mistake)
<1> what did you do
<1> DNS related ?
<0> Put my website on their website
<1> oh
<0> That made me get quite some hits though!
<0> For few hours anyway
<1> Now you mentioned hits
<2> Same here, when I call my ISP - it's horror till you get p***ed level 1 -- usually I start by asking 'please p*** me through to level 2 help' but well... they don't heheh. Then i say something technical, and that often helps. Level 2 still often don't know **** though, but at least then they try to get the guy on the phone who DOES know.
<1> You coded anything for web hits ?
<1> that'd be for your personal web site, you do perl ?
<0> Ehm no, I just mean, since my website had their URL
<0> Plenty people saw it
<0> I don't care for hits
<1> oh okay
<0> But that was a long long time ago
<0> In a galaxy far away
<0> When I was 15
<0> And made my website with Word
<0> And didn't know wtf was FTP to upload it
<0> Wonder if some people declare main int main() throw()
<3> dcash is spamming
<0> And if it's legal
<3> dcash4lifesm
<0> Not like many people use throw specifiers
<3> Thanks
<4> (13:31:03) <4> I think you should commit suicide because it'd be cool to know you're dead is what I said to a spammer just now
<5> heh
<5> throw() == "may throw anything" or does it equal "throws nothing"
<0> Throws nothing
<0> jsaacmk: well you just wasted 10 seconds of your life, congratulations ;)
<5> ah yes and a function with no throw specifier may throw anything..
<4> I went in and asked "is it possible for fags to stop sending me invitations to this channel?" and got banned
<1> Ashe HAHAHA
<1> i went for some coffee, sorry for the delayed haha :P
<1> i just read the thing about the far far galaxy thing
<5> so what happens when you have a function that says throw(Exception1, Exception2) and inside the function you make calls to functions that have no throw()? the compiler lets you get away with it.. and if one of the functions happened to throw something not in Exception1 or Exception2 you end up with an abort, right? even if you try and catch that exeption higher up in the call stack...
<0> WhatAHam: should get a compiler warning if you don't catch them, but VC++ ignores throw specs
<5> no i am not saying yo aren't catching them
<0> But so far I have billions of throw specifiers and such in my code, and nothing ever throw'd, so don't know
<0> :D
<2> WhatAHam: It doesn't really make sense to specify what a compiler may throw or not, unless you WANT it to abort when it throws anything else. It won't get faster (at most slower) if you specify it.
<4> compilers don't throw the thing
<0> They throw errors ;)
<5> Run, well in an ideal world throw specfications can help programmers catch all possible exeptions
<4> not during run time :)
<2> Using throw() can make it a little faster though, I think - then it does less checking and code is actually not being included.
<4> I don't use throws to make my stuff faster. I use it to make it so **** doesn't break into a million pieces and start my computer on fire
<2> WhatAHam: It's not documentation. Code should specify in documentation what it can throw and when.
<5> anyway the problem is that c++ exception stuff isn't as tight as java's .. you can get in situations where th compiler is happy but you end up with uncaught exceptions
<2> hi clsk
<0> Run: 25% of my doc gets generated from the code, so I prefer having them :p
<5> Run, well in that case why use types at all? you don't need types then, if you just want to document everything...
<0> (but I don't use throw() directly, it's a #define, so I can disable exceptions)
<6> hello
<4> do you use doxygen?
<6> run
<0> Nope
<4> some commercial software?
<2> WhatAHam: Thank you for making clear that helping you isn't fruitful.
<0> The parser, or the code?
<4> to generate the documentation
<1> Ashe, these days i brought back to life 3 computers.
<0> It's something I wrote just for the project
<5> Run, erm.. ok
<4> cool
<0> Sends everything to SQL Server
<1> One P3 450 overclocked to 518(slot1), one cyrix 6x86 and one amd 333 all w/ soyo mobos :P
<0> Then I have to make the .xml's with the description and such
<4> now that is neat. I need a project to finish before the end of this school year for my independant computer cl***
<0> But requirements (header, etc), and declarations, they're all generated
<0> The DB looks a bit ugly though
<0> Like, you have a table method, a table methodargument, etc
<0> Can get messy if you look at it after 6 months
<4> heh
<0> + all the triggers/sp's
<0> But now I haven't needed to change it in the past 18 months
<5> Ashe, wow why the need to put all the sourcecode docs in a DB? how big is the project?
<0> Kind of big
<5> i mean for quick cross referencing doxygen does a good job usually.. can't see why you would need a db unless it's really huge..
<5> how big?
<0> Getting close to 500k lines (with no comments in the code)
<5> hmm
<5> yeah that's biggish.. although.. i dunno.. a db.. what has it enabled you to do over doxygen?
<0> Dunno, never used doxygen
<5> oh
<0> Maybe I have a screenshot on this computer
<5> i love doxygen.. it just works and it can cross reference and do all sorts of neat things making it much more convenient to browse through code..
<0> Or maybe not
<0> Anyway it looked more like MSDN than Doxygen doc
<4> the code does not have comments, or are you counting without comments?
<0> It doesn't have comments
<4> heh
<5> wow that's ean
<5> mean
<5> how can someone write 500k lines and not comment a single method or cl***? that's really mean.
<7> Because we know what we're doing, and we ***ume you do to.
<7> I only comment code when I think it's likely to be maintained by less-skilled programmers than me.
<0> And nobody else is maintaining this, so it hardly matters
<7> Or to note a hack.
<5> well i work on opensource software, so you generally want to comment as well as possible in those cases
<5> anyway i think it's just mean not to comment.. it shows a certain arrogance and also probably is a way to maintain job security
<8> hi Solamente
<7> Anyone who can't read my code should be concerned about his own job security.
<9> so it seems there's a new spam campaign hitting undernet.
<5> Solamente, heh, well.. you are not doing a good job of disproving my previous statement. ;)
<9> perhaps if Run was around we could get some ircop abuse going and solve everyone's problems :P
<7> I'm not trying to disprove the arrogance part. I know I'm good.
<7> And my job security is tied directly to that fact.
<5> heh ok. but don't you think it polite to share with others?
<8> system administrators share stuff w/ others :P
<7> And I *do* generally have to comment the code I write in my day-to-day job because a significant percentage of the directs in the company aren't as skilled.
<5> man programmers are worse than hot chicks..
<8> lol
<7> Yes. We have looks *and* brains.
<10> imagine that....
<2> I only add comments when it was so complex at that point that I made a mistake myself *writing* the code - and then later fixed it.
<0> WhatAHam: http://www.despair.com/pretension.html
<5> yeah but the competitive egoes.. that's why i can't even work in industry anymore.. i am sick of all the egos.. in academia we share more..
<5> heh that's hilarious ashe
<7> Ego without ability to back it up is like a counterfeit coin.
<0> Depair.com calendars > *
<7> But ego derived from ability is crucial.
<2> (I never understand my own code later on, but I'm sure that is because I write bad code... more likely because it's just complex :p)
<2> not sure*
<5> Solamente, i agree.. but most of the time i have met programmers with a huge ego that really weren't that great.. they were ok. and it made me puke.
<5> and i was better than them and didn't feel like dealing with their ego.. it just made my day harder.. i really hate egos
<0> I like legos
<5> they just get in the way of arriving at a solution
<5> sometimes
<8> Ashe lol
<5> if you truly love something, there is no need to have an ego about it.. yo and that thing are one and there is nothing to feel insecure about. an ego really is spawned by some insecurity
<7> What absolute crap
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