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<0> Someone calls you
<0> You just say
<0> "**** you, idiot!"
<0> And hang up
<1> It's something that an HR droid can look at and say, "Okay, he's safe to pay."
<2> Run, I don't want to have a ****ing argument every ten minutes on the internet.
<0> Safety is overrated
<3> so is life
<2> _m_'s been tweaking his script for months.
<2> Leave it be.
<4> being good at tech support simply requires the ability to type everyhting the user says into google :)
<5> but it might be too hard for me to work as a tech support person or whatever this new job is going to be and then try to get a programming job through the back door
<0> Life is an STD
<2> It's hard for us to give you advice without knowing more about your background, floyd.
<2> Age, experience, education, skills
<2> And, unfortunately, it's a Sunday afternoon and I have things to do.
<2> But that might help these other guys help you out more
<0> It's not like he'll be tech support all his life
<0> (hopefully)
<2> I will say this
<5> I have little community college completed but have taken tons of cl***es in the past ( i'm great at school now, if only my bike doesn't get stolen ),
<1> PFloyd24, I got a programming job in a company once by starting in tech support.
<2> There's a chatter nicked Ragtime in #politics and #philosophy2 periodically
<1> I was dying to get out of my government job.
<2> I think he just got his MCSE or something
<2> And he got a pretty nice job
<5> cool sola
<2> So you might want to talk with him next time you see him.
<1> But they knew I had programming skills, and I got ***igned to writing one-off utilities for customers in response to support issues.
<1> I learned the code base and database that way, then moved in development.
<1> So it's a valid option. Just might take you longer.
<0> I managed to get a tech support job in a company once by starting in programming
<5> I have a nice $15 hour job doing kinda tech support stuff but I got a new job offer, someone saw my resume online
<0> I wrote so many bugs they put me tech support to punish me and get all the angry customers on the phone
<2> Heh
<5> lol
<5> I hope that never happens to me
<2> Floyd, I should note that the typical programming career probably starts out in quality ***urance
<2> Finding bugs, then fixing bugs, then writing bugs
<2> At least, that's what I've heard, I don't know anyone here who actually did it that way
<2> Or anywhere, come to think of it
<5> right it is monkey work but some pay around 40,000 - 60,000 per year which would be a nice step up,
<2> Look less at the current pay than at the growth potential
<4> JBlitzen, thats how every programmer I know does it.
<2> 60k is appealling when you're 20, less when you're 50
<0> If it's Oracle tech support, tell me now, cause I'll just stop calling them when it's the US shift
<2> Hey, at least he speaks english
<2> Wait a minute, you don't
<5> lol
<2> You do speak english, right, ashe?
<2> I guess you'd have to, how could you be literate in it without speaking it
<0> Nope, right now I'm talking to you in italian and mIRC translates
<2> Heh
<6> i was easy to please, made 40k here :/
<2> Heh rd
<2> Don't worry about it, it was a stepping stone
<0> My "main" language is french anyway
<6> yup
<6> i was able to save making that, anyway
<2> And not a bad one at your age, at that
<5> I will consider the experience of this new job that called me
<2> Ah, ashe.
<2> Is that what they speak in Belgium or wherever you're from?
<5> but money is good for investing in computers here
<2> nod, floyd
<5> I mean by getting more of them
<5> servers setup and what not
<0> 55% speak dutch, 45% speak french and 10% german
<2> Like I said, though, make sure you talk to someone who does that first, if you can
<0> Or something like that
<2> Ah, ashe
<2> So kind of like texas, where 55% speak mexican, 30% speak ebonics, and 20% speak english
<7> They don't speak dutch, they speak Vlaams.
<5> mexican is a language?
<5> lol
<8> lol Run
<2> It's a dialect of Spanish, I'd think
<2> But you'd never confuse a mexican with a native spaniard
<0> Run: nah, they speak dutch, you speak holland-ish :p
<5> you mean talk to my tech support sage and ask him about doing that same thing?
<5> or before I try for this new job \
<5> ?
<0> What kind of tech support is it anyway
<5> new one or current one?
<0> Both?
<5> mine is kind like fixing broken computers at a Comp Lab at a community college and helping people...
<5> new one is unknown/
<2> Talk to someone who understands that career path, floyd.
<2> I don't think anyone here does.
<5> sounds very professional though
<5> ok
<0> I kind of do tech support, sometimes people call me and scream like "OMG OMG I CRASHED IT I CRASHED IT HELP ME PLEASE"
<6> I did that while I was in school :/
<0> What, call people ans say OMG OMG I CRASHED IT?
<0> s/ans/and
<6> heh
<9> lol
<0> Last time someone called me to say that, the customer lost something like $150,000
<0> And that's just cause we're lucky it happened on a week-end :D
<10> yo Ashe` muh man
<0> Hey bald guy
<10> how's australia treating you?
<0> Australia?
<7> heh - I typed the same serial number from chessbase9 into 'fritz9' and it worked...
<10> well, wherever you are now
<0> Good, I guess
<7> The lazy bastards used the same checking software I guess.
<10> you in italy?
<0> Nope
<0> Belgium this week, France next week
<0> Netherlands 2 weeks after that
<0> Then I don't know
<10> interesting life you lead
<0> Yup, I take planes and listen to mp3s
<10> just make sure the place is clean this summer when I come to visit
<0> Which one?
<10> which one is nicest?
<0> Depends what you want to do
<10> impress girls with my crazy american accent
<0> Then you'd better avoid europe
<8> lol
<10> hehe
<10> I've been wanting to go back to italy for years now
<0> When I went there in January it was freezing cold
<0> I don't want to go back :'(
<10> where'd you go?
<0> Rome
<10> see st. peter's ?
<0> (which ****s, by the way)
<10> I thought rome was ok
<0> Yes, it's quite funny cause I was reading Angels & Demons while arriving at the airport
<10> liked venice more tho
<0> Venice, Florence
<10> angels and demons... that about anti-matter?
<0> Yup
<10> and the illuminati
<10> heard that's a pretty good read
<0> Really nice
<0> Probably better than the Da Vinci Code
<0> Except if you read it already
<0> Then it'll feel like he always writes the same things
<0> But still a good read
<10> hehe
<10> its the prequel to da vinci code isn't it?
<11> yes it is
<10> hey vawjr :)
<11> it fills in some blanks that are referred to as "happened last year" etc
<0> I've read the Da Vinci Code first
<0> (like many people I suppose)
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