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<0> virtual static as in can be used with polymorphism, but can be accessed without a created cl***
<0> desc get's integrated within the cl***.
<1> that STILL doesn't doy ou any good
<2> virtual static doesn't exist
<0> yes, i know. i said a "perfect world"
<1> I'm trying to show him that if it did, it wouldn't do him any good
<0> why?
<2> because you would still need to know the actual type
<1> so how do you now use it.... you load a DLL and what?
<3> if you have the describeyourself function (probably should be a virtual function) then why do you need this "virtual static" member?
<4> Static == doesn't require instantiation to be called
<0> and call a DLL function named describeyourself(astruct)
<4> And virtual can't be called
<1> IRR of course it can
<2> MrMuscolo why can't you just load the plugin DLL? the plugin DLL should be required to export a few functions that identify the plugin and allow you to get whatever information you want about that plugin. the plugin DLL also exposes a 'make' function that instanciates the cl*** that is the actual plugin
<1> MrMuscolo ok, so far.... I don't see a need for a virtual static
<1> rdragon that's what I've been wondering
<0> a virtual function mycl***::getdesc(astruct out)....
<0> hmm
<0> i think that would work
<1> HOW?????
<0> well didn't you just SUGGEST it, vawjrwrk??
<4> vawjrwrk really?
<1> IRR if you coulnd't call them, they'd be kinda worhtless
<2> MrMuscolo you look like you're too tied up stuck on trying to get your own idea to work, that you're not listening
<1> MrMuscolo ah, I thought you were still wanting it static
<1> because you didn't have an object laying around
<0> oh yeah. ****
<2> but yes, that virtual function is fine. just have your dll expose a function that instanciates the object, then you can call your virtual 'getdesc' function that's declared in the base cl*** for all plugins
<4> <<In C++, if you call a virtual function from a constructor or destructor, the compiler calls the instance of the virtual function defined for the cl*** being constructed (for example, Base::SomeVirtFn if called from Base::Base), not the most derived instance.>>
<1> IRR of course
<1> what's your point?
<4> vawjrwrk so its not the virtual function itself.
<4> Its its implementation
<1> oh allah, give me a break
<0> but isn't constructing / destructing an object, just to get some data on from it a little worthless?
<1> MrMuscolo so DON'T
<1> call some fixed function in the ****ing DLL
<2> then go with my previous suggestion
<2> yeah
<0> i don't understand how you want to do it, vawAFKhome
<0> vawjrwrk
<2> MrMuscolo....
<0> ok. i'm listening
<1> MrMuscolo just export a function
<2> void GetDescription( DescriptionStructure& desc );
<2> that's not a member function
<2> export that function
<0> yes
<2> and voila, you're done
<2> aside from writing it
<1> and yes, you NEED to write it for each DLL
<0> and GetDescription(...) { desc.firstmember = 1; desc.secondmember = 2; ...}?
<2> sure
<1> we ahve NO idea what you want for your dewcription
<1> or description
<0> and what if someone writes a module, and then fills the description with false data, to fool my app?
<1> and we don't care
<2> MrMuscolo - then consider yourself fooled
<0> see.... i don't like being fooled...
<2> then detect 'false' data
<1> how you going to stop them from fooling you if they write their own derived cl***
<1> ???
<1> and lie to you about what it does
<0> hmm...
<2> does it really matter? unless they're able to distribute the plugin to your clients
<0> ok... stupid idea.
<5> english or frensh ?
<2> english
<0> well they might. because i want to make a place on my web page for client-supplied modules / plugins
<0> ehh whatever
<5> rdragon oki
<0> thanks
<2> MrMuscolo then put up a message saying 'these plugins may destroy your computer when used'
<5> rdragon the chanel of frensh where i find it pls ?
<2> Hfid_Med35 I don't know
<4> Its french dude, not frensh
<4> Franaise
<2> frensh toast
<4> french fries
<1> french bread
<5> IRR yess i want to know programin in c++ in frensh pls ?
<1> good luck
<4> Hfid_Med35 coute donc
<2> heh
<5> IRR yep
<4> En Franaise a n'xiste pas
<5> why not
<1> if you're seriiously going to get into computers, you'll likely need English (a very lot of the texts are written in it)
<4> On utilise Prolog
<2> a very lot ;)
<6> that's goooood engrish
<4> public rien je_suis_fatigu;
<5> IRR not programming in frensh but lering
<5> IRR you speak frensh ?
<4> Hfid_Med35 go to your nearest library. They are full of painful translations of all the American texts on programming.
<4> Hfid_Med35 I live in FR
<5> i tike your private pls ?
<4> No you can't tike in private.
<5> can you tel me in private pls IRR?
<4> Hfid_Med35 I don't share any secrets with you
<5> or i speak here frensh ?
<4> Go ahead
<6> jill|PEWFgon: wake up
<6> ober says that korean animation i pasted earlier is an acurate portayal as life as a korean
<4> Ok fine vawjrwrk you shouldn't be so condescendant with me
<6> vic: http://www.microsoft.com/korea/events/ready2005/vs_song.asp
<6> bunch of microsofties in korea having some fun
<4> gaah I can't look anymore!!!
<2> microsoft made this? heh
<1> well, that sure makes me want to go out and buy it
<6> heh
<7> Hey vawjr
<7> Someday when you get a chance
<7> Do me a favor and check out the table of contents and sample chapter or two from http://www.deitel.com/books/cpphtp5/
<7> They're like three versions later than the one that everybody hated for being out of date
<6> JBlitzen: when did your gaey *** get here
<7> Quiet, you walking impurity
<1> thats one version later than the one I own
<7> Ah, vic
<7> How's the one you have?
<8> I have a program in c that works fine as one large file. When I split it up into a few logical modules, all of a sudden I get random unexplained problems, like sqrt(normal positive numbers) returning NaN. anyone have a clue what in the hell is wrong with C?
<1> I didn't care for it, I thought they got into all tha C oriented memory allocation crap waaaay to early
<7> Ah
<1> abc987123 this is a C++ channel....... /join #c main
<1> I quit reading it after maybe 5 or 6 chapters, JBlitzen
<7> nod
<8> thanks vawjrwrk
<1> it's still on my bookshelf incase someone whants to refer to a specific chapter, etc
<1> JBlitzen I wasn't evaluating it (when I was reading it) as a book for someone who had lots of programming experience (and several languges already learned), I was looking for books for newbies... perhaps I should read it again and see if it belongs lower on my list
<7> I was thinking of for newbies myself
<7> I still haven't actually looked through accelerated C++
<7> Were I slightly more civically minded, I'd drive down to these student "protests" and walk around with a picket sign saying "STFU AND GET BACK TO CL***, SLACKERS".
<7> But I'm not sure what the mexican translation of that is.
<6> MACH SNEL BITCHES
<6> SNELL
<7> I don't know what that means, but you're gay
<6> schnell too
<6> which is why i don't speak german
<6> make haste, move fast
<6> yeah, those protestors make me sick
<9> what are they protesting for?
<7> Because it beats sitting in cl*** like the non-slackers.
<7> And because society doesn't shame them back under their bed.
<6> new legislation making it a felony to be in the states illegally, amoung other things (like tougher employer checks, etc)
<9> french students are protesting too atm
<6> poor little people that have entered the country illegally
<7> Rush quoted somebody who wrote that the actual protests were like thieves protesting for fewer police on the streets.
<6> heh
<7> But as stupid as that is, at least those are adults.
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