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<0> however, since right now i am trapped in this body .. i want to make the best of it
<1> wonderful, i bet
<0> perhasp being in love iwth a woman is an illusion
<2> What the hell is this about
<0> a dangerous poison that intoxicates the mind and clouds good judgement?
<2> Did khan dump you, ham
<0> haha
<3> peter is playing nihilist again
<1> it is, it is mostly a chemical reaction to keep you around so that after you have mated you will protect the female until the child is reared
<0> that's possibly true
<4> reared?
<2> Asking khan about romance is like asking a cow about steak
<0> however, it's a great wonderful chemical reaction to experience
<1> so is LSD
<0> of all the possible chemical reaction i am subjected to in this funny chemistry set of organs and fluids and squishy parts.. that one is one of the greatest ones
<0> yeah but lsd i think isn't as fun as being in love
<0> but that is my opinion
<2> Probably less expensive
<0> if you love lsd more than being in love, that's great
<1> way to wax vagina on those statements
<2> (What'd I say)
<1> reference to whataham's sappy position on love
<0> haha
<1> any more emotions and i could swear you could lick him for estrogen suppliments
<0> i am just saying, even eating a pizza is a pretty crappy biological function
<2> How old are you, ham
<0> haha 28
<0> why?
<3> eggplant, yes; pizza, no
<0> do i sound 16?
<2> Yes
<0> i don't think my position is logically unsound
<0> you just have an irrational loathing of love
<1> to change topics as you're all obviously wrong, speaking of cool **** the intelligent designer gifted us with, watched nova tonight which talked about the discovery of RNAi
<2> http://www.nomask.com/
<0> it is but one of many biological situations one finds oneself in
<2> Holy crap
<2> Well, khan has an irrational loathing of love
<2> On the other hand, he's in an arranged marriage, so, you've gotta see where he's coming from
<1> i have an rational loathing of emotion
<2> You have an irrational fear of spelling
<0> oh yeah i think if i were in an arranged marriage i would try and get over the cognitive dissonance that would create by claiming that love is an illusion as well..
<0> or at least an unworthy illusion
<0> if someone told me i could never eat pizza again i woudl invent all sorts of reasons why pizza is horrible
<1> actually, arranged marriages, not that i have one, are more successful than marriages for love. likely a combination of social mores and the fact that, shockingly, LOVE FADES (quickly)
<0> haha crap pro!??!
<2> cpap
<2> Must be some sort of disease or something
<0> is this for fat people that snore?
<2> I keep hearing the radio ads and always thought they were mispronouncing sleep ap, short for sleep apnea or something
<0> yeah sleep apnea
<2> Just checked out the website, and on the plus side, they weren't mispronouncing it
<2> And on the minus side, it turns out to be some darth vader sbdm device
<2> Yeah, I bet it's for fatties somehow
<1> cpap sounds like an abbreviation for what they'd do to whataham's cervix walls
<3> if it helps it would be worth it... apparently if one suffers from it, it's difficult to feel rested after sleeping
<2> Yeah, I suppose
<0> peterhu, well, if they are more successful (as in fewer of them end in divorce), it is hard to say if that's a better wya to live. ultimately it's up to the people that participate in it to decide.. but really if one is willing to go into the thing irrespective of their human urges.. it makes sense why they would be less apt to divorce since they already say bye-bye to love long ago..
<2> Just a rather frightful thing
<2> I thought they were advertising some sort of nose deal like those open nose strips
<2> That thing looks like what they pulled out of guano reeves in the matrix
<1> as marriages go, the only quantitative measure of success is whether or not it ends in a divorce
<1> so therefore, yes, they are more successful statistically
<2> So what's the problem, ham, you get dumped?
<1> and like i said, social mores do play a big role
<0> well nowadays.. marriage being as risky a proposition as it is financially.. i am not saying you didn't take the better route
<1> however, love is a chemical reaction you get over with
<2> Yes, the threat of being drawn and quartered if you ever cheat on your spouse does make for a technically successful marriage
<3> lust clearly is, not clear that love is
<1> and unless it's replaced with some other dependency, divorce is inevitable
<0> JBlitzen, quite the opposite.. i am actually into this chick and we were debating the finer points of love
<1> lust and love are pretty much hand in hand. you don't keep that "burning" sensation for long after the lust fades away. you might get accustomed to the person and call that love
<0> if i just got dumped i would be agreeing with peterhu more i think haha
<2> Well
<2> If you just got dumped, were gay, and 4 feet tall, you would be.
<0> hahaha
<2> I learned in health cl*** that that "burning" sensation lasts forever
<2> So what was the debate about
<1> i meant symbolically, you gonorrhea ridden freak
<0> peterhu, well i think the fact that love is 'just a chemical reaction' is not a strong argument against it.. all of our life is just a chemial reaction.. liking c++ or computers or the sun or hating the smell of feces, etc.. all are genetic and chemical reactions.. so what?
<2> Go piss fire, flamer
<2> !
<0> JBlitzen, i am not sure what the debate was about.. i think peterhu just chimed in with his philosophy and i was listening to it.. i am not really debating much.. just discussing
<2> nod
<4> determinism is the answer... nothing to worry about
<2> Heh
<0> it's all been arranged?
<4> not exactly
<1> by the intelligent designer
<4> but there's only one way it can play out
<3> good Calvanist theory
<2> rdragon, I think the problem here is that you haven't noticed the actual nature of determinism
<4> JBlitzen - ?
<2> Which is, specifically, that the determinist becomes a loser but refuses to take responsibility for having done so
<4> hmm
<2> It's not a philosophical worldview that lends itself to personal achievement and fulfillment
<2> Which is probably why most people aren't that attracted to it
<1> so when did you subscribe to said philosophy on a personal basis?
<0> jblitzen: i gotta read about this.. what is determinism exactly?
<2> I just explained what it is
<4> well, I don't really use it completely as my worldview... I use it more as an explanation of how and why things work
<2> But that's sort of the problem
<2> It's neither how nor why things work
<2> It's totally useless except as an avoidance mechanism
<4> well, i've never used it as such
<0> JBlitzen, your explanation was rather uncleaer, in my opinion.. it was more a criticism of it.. i just read the wikipedia entry and now i understand..
<4> i think that's more like fatalism
<2> Determinism doesn't explain why trying to melt crayons on the stove resulted in the house burning down, or what the physical effects were, rdragon
<2> True, but they're really used the same way
<2> At least, in the sense you're using it
<4> I really can't think of a case where I used determinism as an excuse for any of my actions
<2> I'm just saying that that's its only use
<2> [00:33] <4> determinism is the answer... nothing to worry about
<2> [00:33] <2> Heh
<1> philosophy is an exercise in stupidity
<0> so JBlitzen you say tha determinism and free-will are incompatible? and thus you can use determinism as an excuse for irresponsibility, etc?
<4> i was just saying it in jest, there
<1> only i possess the answers, you freaks
<2> nod
<1> <1> only i possess the answers, you freaks
<2> Well, Ham, I don't really care about determinism or free will
<1> <2> nod
<1> YOU SAW WHAT I SAW
<4> i see determinism more as a physics theory than a way to explain my life socially
<2> We have what appears to be free will
<2> Our actions have consequences
<0> lol peterhu
<2> Whether it's predetermined or not doesn't seem to matter
<2> I don't see any practical relevance of either position
<2> Except, again, in avoiding responsibility.
<1> our actions have reactions, not consequences
<4> I agree - I think you have to function under the ***umption that free will exists in order to live a fullfilling life
<1> consequences has moral implications
<2> Your actions are of no consequence, you goat hugger
<4> but I disagree that it actually exists
<1> which are artificial constructs imposed by the will of the majority
<2> Yeah, rdragon, but do you have any proof that that it doesn't?
<5> rdragon so you don't believe the quantum mechanics people
<2> We know that people seem to rise above their circumstances from time to time
<0> i think one day it may be possible to prove the existance/non-existance of free will using physics
<4> vawjrZZzz- no, I think their theories exist only because we don't have the tools to measure things to enough granularity to realize that it's not so chaotic after all
<1> yep, unfortunately, the next day will be when the sun expands into a red giant
<1> and the seas boil away
<4> and JBlitzen no I have no proof that it doesn't exist... nor do I think you have proof that it does
<5> rdragon ok, sometime explain the two slit paradox experiments...but I need to go to bed (hopefully get better by mornng)
<0> hehe good night vawjrZZzz-
<1> a paradox is just jesus' way of testing our faith
<0> well if quantim physics is in fact correct, then it is possible that the brain might be a quantum system
<0> or at least some of its emergent properties are extremely chaotic and/or have probabilistic qualities
<6> I'm a little teapot.
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