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<0> halliburton needs that money to repair the oil pumps
<1> get a budget report from your state
<2> peterhu the rate is calculated with value of estate
<3> that's just state tax
<2> what kind of estate you have
<3> i would hope they're not keeping a large military presence
<0> yeah, but the state needs it because they get less federal funds
<3> good point
<3> anyway, $50 for cops is not an unworthy thing
<0> states pay most of the bill for federal highways, iirc, but I really don't know
<0> not that they shouldn't, but it's certainly misrepresented
<3> wish my state had built that toll road
<0> yeah, but give to the cops, not anyone (even retired cops) working for a fundraiser company
<1> peterhu who _did_ biuld the toll road?
<3> a private company i'm fairly confident
<1> and you object to it?
<3> let me find out
<3> yes, because the state should have built it
<0> my uncle showed me a report on their expenses he wheedled out of them once, something like 80% went to fundraiser expenses, and this was one of the good companies
<1> I know there's a private one in Dallas
<2> what's fundraiser
<0> meyrn: some company soliciting over the phone "on behalf of" the cops
<1> meyrn an event where you pay money to attend/eat/whatever to raise money (funds) for a "cause" or group
<2> oh
<3> it feeds a vital section of virginia's commuter traffic
<3> and the price has gone up nearly a dollar in the last year
<3> and with the ez p*** support, you really wiz through without giving the price a second thought
<4> until you start getting ezp*** tickets in the mail.
<0> if I had a significant amount to donate, I'd probably give it to the widows and orphans fund or something similar directly
<1> peterhu I suspect people built it to make money
<4> 'funds' are far from direct.
<4> i'd go out and find me some widows and orphans.
<1> and apparently people voluntarily use it
<0> NineVolt: sure, but you can sidestep the fundraiser company
<4> and give it to them -directly-
<3> apparently, the dulles toll road here didn't have enough cameras to cover violators
<3> for some time
<3> i think they've rectified the situation
<3> plenty of people were aware of this and didn't pay
<3> vic, well maintained roads is one of the things i expect a government to provide for the people
<3> not granting some private company to effectively rape a good section of the population because they built the road
<3> which directly exists onto public roads
<1> peterhu who says they "gave" them anything
<3> exits
<3> well, i don't use it
<3> wife does though
<3> i don't have an ez p***
<1> that's your privilege
<1> like buying MicroSoft products............. or not
<0> I got taken for $5 when I was p***ing through a train station once, it seemed like it was really important at the time, but looking back I know what happened, there is a cost with doing your own research and trusts exist that are acceptable to me to donate to
<3> yes, except they should lower my taxes in return
<3> which i have no choice to pay
<3> those taxes *should* be paying for that 15 mile road
<3> but they didn't
<3> instead, it costs me $3 a crossing
<0> no choice to pay means they don't have to lower
<1> peterhu well, if your government isn't doing what you pay them for, fire them
<0> and they'll keep voter interest on non-issues like gay marriage so no one votes according to what matters
<3> bah, ineffective
<5> Kniht: I'd argue when an important portion of a state's population want to enforce legislation that is against human rights, it's quite an issue.
<0> it is a contract and I can see the need to provide a way for couples to register themselves, but even that's not strictly mandatory, iirc
<0> DrkMatter: being an issue and being an important issue that affects every voter are two different categories
<1> Kniht what changed around the civil war that made it suddenly neccessary
<0> vawjr: I don't know the history, but I imagine larger cities increased the need for a spouse of record, for example with emergency medical decisions
<1> civil war??? give me a break
<0> I'm sure valid needs existed before but weren't enough to decide the issue
<1> government power grab, that's all
<0> what isn't?
<1> or "control grab" would be a better choice
<0> but that doesn't mean there aren't justified reasons for power either
<1> I can't think of any
<0> I'm not saying it should be mandatory, the married couple can decide that, there's a firm foundation for common law marriage afaik
<0> police is justifiable
<1> yes, and guess who kept the records
<0> fire departments
<0> churches?
<1> lol, I see you've not read the history
<1> bingo
<0> not beyond 2 years of american history in HS :P
<0> actually, 2.5, ap us gov too
<1> well, fire departments used to be owned by insurance companies... and they used them to keep their clients from suffering loss... then they conned the public into paying this (rather large) expence of theirs
<3> the fire department is private where my father lives
<0> was that true through chicago's big fire?
<3> if you don't pay the volunteer unit, they don't come
<3> mostly because the city's fire department would be unable to reach the island in time
<3> and the island is entirely privately owned
<1> peterhu the tagline on the ads for the "fireman's ball" this year was "you come to our ball, we'll come to your fire"
<0> I think it's something that should be under local control, and if the community doesn't want it, then they don't have to have it
<3> heh
<0> and if you don't agree with the community, move :P
<3> mmm, famous amos cookies
<1> never cared for those, too crisp for my taste
<3> it's unfortunate they sell them by the ton at costco
<6> mmmmm fire
<3> wife picked up a crate
<0> a whole pallet only $1.69! (delivery truck: $50)
<2> <7> for (int i = getstart(); i != endCondition(); ++i) { doStuff(); } // No idea how many loops will occur here
<7> meyrn, it's not that hard to figure out. Write a sample app.
<2> it is confusing somehow :)
<2> if getstart contains a while return 1
<0> if ( argc ) for ( ++argv; *argv; ++argv ) {} is another example
<7> int getStart() { return 1; } int endCondition() { return 5; }
<0> inside main( int argc, char* argv[] )
<2> hm
<0> sing hym(n)s in church
<7> Given those function defintions, my for loop is *exactly* like for(int i = 1; i != 5; ++i) { doStuff() }
<1> meyrn huh????
<7> And chances are, that's what the compiler will generate for me.
<2> vawjrwrk nope :/
<2> never used a function as conditions statement
<2> however, it's a creative way
<7> Happens all the time in C++
<1> we did it in Pascal quite often also
<7> for (it = container.begin(); it != container.end(); ++it) { std::cout << *it << '\n'; }
<0> meyrn: std::vector<int> v; /*...*/ for ( std::vector<int>::iterator n = v.begin(); n != v.end(); ++n ) {}
<0> notice it's an iterator, not a const_iterator, v's size could even change through the loop
<1> don't see that a const_iterator would make a difference
<1> w/ respect to size changing
<0> I was thinking of vector::insert using n
<7> And would that invalidate a vector iterator?
<2> a odd-looking C++ feature
<2> returning by reference
<0> Solamente: only if you erase, insert, or push_back more than capacity()
<1> meyrn what are you referring to?
<2> setvar()=x;
<0> meyrn: neither getStart not container::begin/end return a reference
<0> and that's not the pattern used either
<1> meyrn very few people write it that way
<0> var(x) is preferable
<1> much
<2> yup i just heart about that way little
<7> Though it has its uses.
<2> functions stays in left and returns x as return value
<0> I kinda like D's obj.var = x; // calls obj.var(x) if it exists
<7> But usually it's hidden behind other syntax.
<0> meyrn: the primary reason, afaik, that references were introduced was to support operator overloading
<1> Kniht what does var += x; do?
<2> i thought there can be particular using, dunno.
<0> you simply can't do it without references or a god awful special case
<1> Kniht and they beat the crap outta p***ing pointers around
<7> They can't be reseated.
<0> vawjrwrk: don't know, just read about it yesterday
<1> well, doiong operator overloading would be a pain w/ only pointers
<0> vawjrwrk: it's an interesting idea though, I'd like to see how implementing it in my toy language works out
<7> Templates would be a pain, too.
<0> Solamente: templates work because of overloading, operators and otherwise, so I think that's just the same reasoning
<8> Kia Ora
<2> Solamente you are genius :)
<7> No I'm not.
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