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<0> sup all <1> soup? <1> soap? <1> SOAP <0> never got into soap that much <2> impatient I only did recently, with .NET web Services <0> ya <2> otherwise, I woudln't do it at all <0> that's been my limited experience with it <2> so that's cheating, since .NET does everything for us :P <3> especially with WSE <1> http://itinfo.eyethroughtheweb.com/itinfo/?p=4 - interesting topic about .net remoting or webservices soap <3> the kerberos-token WS-Security stuff = easy as pie <3> as long as you're strong in the configfu
<2> speaking of web services, how do you suggest securing your WS with credentials <2> I have more than just l/p type stuff <2> and even more than just group membership <2> within a group, I might have to do a table ID lookup to see if they have access to edit/view a particular ID of something <3> i'm sure there are plenty of ways to use WS-Security for that <3> and better sources of information on the subject than i <2> fair enough <2> I'll probably just end up using the soap header to package the details <2> and then send it down to a security layer <2> my WS layer is EXTREMELY thin and I want to keep it that way <2> at best it's a p***-through layer <1> the soap header actually takes care of the security <2> can the soap header reference the content of the envelop itself? <3> in WSE, you'd probably use UsernameToken <2> cuz like I said, the function called with have IDs p***ed in to it... and depending on what _type_ of ID that is, different security lookups have to be done in lookup tables <3> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wseref/html/T_Microsoft_Web_Services2_Security_Tokens_UsernameToken.asp <3> you can use tokens to also sign and encrypt the message itself <3> though that's from 2.0 <3> i don't believe there's something inherent in WSE that handles replay attacks <3> though, depending on configuration, the window for a successful replay is pretty small <3> but in the past we created a filter that would check against of recent message ids to see if it's being replayed <2> yea, I haven't even considered replays... hrmmm <3> +a list <2> I'm more concerned with the actual security model atm... though we're still trying to get an Alpha out the door <2> so it doesn't matter too much <3> well, if you're using .NET, i'd look heavily into WSE, it makes WS-Security quite easy <3> for that particular implementation, we didn't use UsernameToken, but KerberosToken, as the entire application ran over a homogenous windows network <3> and the client wanted single-signon <3> launch app, it knows who you are and authenticates against the AD without you ever typing in another p***word <2> if I have WS's already do I have to rewrite them for WSE? <2> or is it a totally different thing <3> you'll have to some work to take advantage of security (like getting the tokens from the message, authenticating, etc), but it should be fairly transparent if you're already using ASMX <3> the proxy needs to get the credentials attached to it, so it's not quite as simple as just instantiating the wsdl proxy cl*** <2> what's the point of the ASMX files btw? can you do anything in them? <2> I guess you could if yo udidn't use code behind, but otherwise? <1> they just are a reference to the actual code behind <1> and a file that can be read by the webbrowser <1> i haven't here the line code <1> its basically type casting it into a proxy cl*** <2> I ***umed as much, but I wasn't sure if you could do other things with it <1> well as far as I know <1> i'm a noob <1> n00b <2> likewise <3> they're essentially the .aspx equivilant, except they get built into a WebService derived cl***, and they map to different HttpHandler cl***es <3> (they map = the extension is mapped) <4> ... <5> ellipsis <6> Processing: COMPLETE. Result = 42. Press <7> Key to Continue. <7> key broke <6> I think you need a Magrathean keyboard, or something. <5> I have one <3> Processing: COMPLETE. JB Status = still gaey. Shoot in <HEAD> to continue. <8> That wasn't a nice thing to say peterhu <8> Now say sorry <3> nevah <3> to apologize is to be weak, to be weak is to be a JBlitzen <8> I'll tell your mom <6> Did JB murder somebody while I was away, or what? <8> I don't know how it started, but peterhu seems to have found his writer's expression in the JBlitzen subject. <6> Yeah, I thought he was the cannonical joke butt around here. Maybe he's trying to redirect the channel's angst.
<3> it's just too easy <3> it's like besting a retarded monkey in a battle of wits, literally <8> I have hired my wife as tester, and since she knows nothing about programming, I get very high quality testing... <8> Sort of an advantage of working out of home <3> that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard <3> no one believes you are attractive to a female <8> Who said anything about attraction? It was an arranged marriage. <3> royally ****s to be her <9> I need to generate random numbers from a -n to +n but rand() only generates positive numbers <9> is there any other function I can use? <8> omg... the world should end now. How CAN we solve cgTux's problem? <9> IRR> ha ha ha <10> cgTux: did you p*** algebra 1? <9> no need to be sarcastic... <9> yes I did but if I multiply my the rand() result times -1 <9> it will not be random... <9> it will give me all negative numbers... <8> (rand() % (2n + 2)) - n - 1 <10> can you think of any other mathematical operations aside from multiplication? <10> more specifically, can you think of any operation you can perform on the range -n to +n that will make them all positive aside from absolute value? <10> dont give it away! <8> why not? If he is smart he'll learn from it. If he isn't, then doesnt deserve to learn anyway. <9> IRR,,,, you kind of an ashole.. <9> ***Hole... <8> Cool <0> any of you remember what cl*** (I think in shcodvw.dll) is used to enumerate open explorer windows? <0> can't remember it for the life of me <0> s/shcodvw.dll/shdocvw.dll <0> ;P <10> FindWindow()? im not sure what you mean <0> found it <0> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/176792 <10> nm it's probably some MFC thing :P <8> Now what sort of a spell checker would give a choice molested for Mailsite <8> And 'ottomon' for 'admin' <8> heh admin -> autoimmune <10> i was hoping he would think to add and subtract on his own and then feel stupid <10> but i guess im just a nice person <11> bang! <6> ... (ellipsis) <3> time to hit the gym <8> leaving early today? <0> **** <0> no ActiveX for that object :( <12> http://www.joannejacobs.com/mtarchives/016350.html <10> one that learns common words you use and suggests accordingly ;) <12> Via Low Earth Orbit: Seattle Public Schools has defined "cultural racism" to include individualism and planning for the future. Here's the definition in full: <6> What the hell is "having a future time orientation"? <12> thinking about the future. <6> See, I would have used the word "thinking" too. <6> But that's probably somehow prejudiced too, because it alienates people who don't do it. <12> I need a snack. <6> I can't wait until the current crop of public school graduates runs the world. <8> It can't be worst than your current government <6> Yeah, it can. <6> There's nothing more destructive than pervasive relativist mentality we have, and it's being taught ever more explicitly. <8> Hey I don't quite understand <6> An entire educational system dedicated to the destruction of the faculties necessary to discern a success from failure. That sounds pretty dark to me. <8> I don't know much about the american school system, although my univ was modelled after stanford. Give me an example of this relativism <6> IRR: http://www.joannejacobs.com/mtarchives/016350.html <8> ok <6> The notion that your personal choices should be guided, to any extent, by the number of people who find them offensive is total crap <6> But that's what schools teach. We wasted an entire years' worth of "Social Studies (which used to be called "History", I believe) on Native American studies when I was in school. <6> Not on their motivations, or the nature or meaning of their interactions, but on what kinds of dwellings they built. <6> That's a criminal waste of time. <8> Well atleast now you know... <6> I know what a hogan is. <6> Whoopdie fricking do. I wasted months of my life to learn that. <11> i just installed aston shell <6> So, again, instead of emphasizing purpose, reason, or the aforementioned "thought", it's an emphasis on otherism, or rather, the importance of anything that is dissimilar from the student. <6> Not because it's better, but because it's different. <6> </RANT> <8> In the west values keep changing. But it doesn't necessarily get better. <8> In the orient the ideologies and cultural values remain static, although people may not practice at some point in time.
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