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<0> me and Phil started up a company... not doing bad for first year and part time
<1> nod
<0> it's hard though :/
<2> Well I think I'm going to try to write it :)
<0> so much ****ing paper work... and taxes... and forms... bleh
<3> jb ****s
<1> Yeah, crow, if you can find your way here, you're probably willing to code that sort of thing yourself
<1> Although, admittedly, what's a few weeks for me might be a few months for you
<4> that's rdragon doing that
<2> but JBlitzen, ever thought yo ucould make it on your own and receive the full 100% of the billing rate effectively?
<1> If you're not used to stuff
<1> Yes, I have
<1> It's not quite as simple or alluring as it sounds, but I'm seriously considering it as the next step
<3> no it's not
<1> But probably not this year
<2> Well JBlitzen I've coded some complex systems in C, but I must say DBMS access and manipulation was never part of the code.
<4> access denied, bitch!
<5> complex systems, but never touched a DB?
<1> :(
<1> Like I said, Crow, the code's all out there
<1> If you look for ecommerce/asp.net info, you're going to get real close
<2> will have to look there then
<0> tons of ASP.NET / ecommece / DNN things out there for you to use
<1> Might not get you all the basics you need, and even if it does, you're going to want to extend them, but that's where to start
<2> dnn?
<0> err let me try that again... ASP.NET/DNN ecommerce thigns
<0> dotnetnuke
<1> Dotnetnuke?
<0> for real?
<0> www.dotnetnuke.com ?
<0> JBlitzen c'mon you had to have heard of it :P
<0> if you do .NET programming! heh
<1> I have not
<0> it's a really nice framework for quick-and-easy sites
<0> tons of modules... I mean tons
<0> I don't think I'd use it for corp or anything like that
<0> if I wanted to make a nice corp website and wanted a template system I'd probably use Community Server
<2> well i was thinking of designing the database first ...
<0> Crow-1 if you use an existing store with import functions
<0> why would you design hte DB at all
<1> Walk me through how you'd do something useful with it, maniac
<0> JBlitzen www.snowcovered.com
<0> go there
<0> that'll answer your questions :/
<1> Doesn't seem to be
<2> Did you start out with C ? I'm wondering what the VB.NET learning curve is like ?
<0> JBlitzen look at all the modules you can download/buy
<2> christ aspnet.com looks like hollywood :)
<1> Walk me through how you'd do something useful with it, maniac
<0> they all plug in to the same interface
<0> ok
<0> well that entire site is built off of DNN... none of the pages are "real" they're all virtual
<0> everything lives in teh DB
<0> you create modules and you load them through an admin page
<0> you create a new page, then drag and drop the modules onto your page
<0> in a predefined (but fully definable) set of areas... e.g. leftMenu, centerContent, footerContent, headerContent, rightMenu, etc
<0> you define them, and then add modules there
<2> well naturally all information should be in the database ... but sounds like you're talking about a content management system
<0> define the roder of them... define who has access to the pages (user level or role level permissions)
<0> and then you define who can see/edit/delete/etc a given module once they're on that page
<2> ebay luckily got their actual name as their stock ticker
<3> jb?
<1> I still don't quite see it, maniac
<0> www.LititzAutoService.com
<0> is a site I did (started anyway, the owners never put in content)
<0> I didn't code any of those things... the home page, I have a standard menu, I dragged on to the leftContent area a "login module"
<0> in the center content I put an RSS feed, and an "announcements" module
<0> from there, they have edit buttons... the announcements, when you go to edit, gives you a list of all past news
<0> allows you to add new news, etc
<0> the RSS, I just pick the feed and the XSLT for it
<0> all this through the web, without ever writing any code
<1> hmm
<0> I didn't write a single line of code for that site
<0> not a single page, nothing
<0> everything is generated and different modules do different things (obviously)
<0> even that "Vehicles" thing is just a module that I configured through the DNN interface
<0> it's pretty nice for pumping out cookie cutter sites like this
<0> once you know the framework, it takes but a few hrs to set it up... doing layouts is alittle trickier, but not to obad once you know it
<1> hmm
<2> Thanks guys. I'm out.
<0> JBlitzen you should at least give it a shot
<0> play with the modules it comes preloaded with
<0> and download free ones from snowcovered and from dotnetnuke.com
<1> Honestly we've kind of sort of done that ourselves
<0> I'm sure
<0> but this has a crazy communit ybehind it
<0> it's at least worth looking in to :/
<3> jb ****s, g'night!
<1> Yeah, I'm gonna keep it in mind
<1> What's the root site of it?
<6> TestApp error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _socket@12 referenced in function _main
<1> So I can bookmark
<0> www.DotNetNuke.com
<6> that is because i dont have socket library linked?
<7> Justin_T: Yes.
<1> And is there a demo of it or something?
<6> ok, so i make it bad
<6> i mean wrong
<7> Well, did you link the right library?
<1> "1.3 billion Chinese people are angry with Jack Bauer. Sounds like a fair fight."
<7> Kieffer Sutherland has superceded Chuck Norris has biggest abd-*** of all time.
<1> "If you get 7 stars on your wanted level on Grand Theft Auto, Jack Bauer comes after you. You don't want to get 7 stars."
<6> DrkMatter im trying
<6> i put the dir where the lib is locate
<4> jack bauer is a *****
<1> "Jack Bauer has no problem following orders, unless you tell him to do something he doesn't want to."
<1> Haha
<1> "Jack Bauer literally died for his country, and lived to tell about it."
<1> "Jack Bauer's family threw him a surprise birthday party when he was a child. Once."
<5> boooo
<4> i'm beginning to think cppbot's judgment regarding jb was correct
<7> Justin_T: Are you sure you did it in the right field?
<6> i think
<6> there is the only field that i can set the dir
<7> http://web.sau.edu/LillisKevinM/C++Tutorial/dotNet/
<7> Best tutorial ever.
<6> ok
<6> let me see
<7> I was ebing sarcastic. =P
<6> i think that i already know that
<7> Anyone who needs a screenshot of how to use Windows' start menu obviously shouldn't eb doinc C++.
<6> im looking for link Ws2_32.lib library
<8> maybe they only knoow unix :p
<9> what if you've spent our whole life only writing software for unix servers and you've never seen a gui before? ;)
<8> cn28h we think too much alike :)
<9> heheh
<8> hows purdue life
<6> or thats fine
<9> going all right I s'pose, going to be a rough semester
<9> how about for you?
<6> i can try to add reference form a c# project
<6> can i do that?
<8> worst semester yet here too
<7> Justin_T: That sounds rather irrelevant.
<8> partial diff eqs doesnt look too fun
<6> maybe
<9> doesn't sound too fun heheh
<9> I'm in ODE
<6> im c# programmer trying to learn c++
<1> Wow
<1> You're the first one I've seen, I think
<6> lol,
<7> Justin_T:
<7> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vccore/html/_core_set_linker_options.asp
<6> i dont think so
<7> You should find something from there.
<8> you dont program c#, microsoft programs you
<6> thanx Dreadfull
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