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<0> which bit of DirectoryServices?
<1> need to implement better authentification... CFR compliance.
<2> just because they used VC6 doesn't mean it's very far off standard (thought it likely is)
<3> http://www.drudgereport.com/
<3> some of the headlines today are amusing.
<3> BEVERLY HILLS HIGH SENDING STUDENTS TO SEE GORE'S 'GLOBAL WARMING' FILM ...
<3> 90210 CAMPUS HAS ITS OWN OIL WELL -- PUMPS 400-500 BARRELS A DAY!
<3> Bill Clinton to Write Book on Public Service -- For $5 Million...
<3> seriously, these read like onion headlines.
<2> lol
<2> Iran eyes badges for Jews
<2> Law would require non-Muslim insignia
<2> hasn't the world seen that before??
<2> not onion
<3> http://www.theagitator.com/archives/026591.php#026591
<3> that's amusing too.
<4> Woman rips her husband's penis off with her bare hands...
<4> oww
<3> yeah, there's that one too.
<5> vawjrwrk: source?
<6> hi all
<2> http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/9229472/detail.html
<2> Cowmoo drudge headline
<5> ah
<6> how do one go by "registering" licences for a program you developed?
<6> so that you can sell licenses?
<7> you mean those aren't onion headlines?
<2> no they are not
<7> wetdust: registering with whom?
<6> peterhu: i really dont know how it works, ive got software i wrote,but i need to "create" a license so that if i resell it i can sell licenses for users,like MS server 2003 for instance...>1 client can by licenses instead of byuing the whole cd or....how can i protect my software so that they cant resell it without buying at me?...seems like a stupid question sorry?
<6> or is that a copyright issue?
<8> wetdust : you should write a end user licence agreement, or better, get one written by a lawyer
<8> it would make reselling your software illegal
<8> however, it wouldn't stop people from making illegal copies and selling them - as it happens with most of the software
<8> and there is no way to create a perfect protection - everything one man can make, another can unmake
<6> thanx
<7> fan freaking tastic
<5> moo/
<5> ?
<7> finally got a crash dump from this hard to repro bug: it's crashing on a native thread in the CLR doing garbage collection
<2> oh fun
<7> mscorwks!gc_heap::find_first_object
<7> trying to access 000000ff
<7> likely a null pointer + offset
<7> and the GC is definitely firing, because the debugger is having problems looking up some method tables (stuff gets moved around during a GC)
<2> yup, sounds like fun
<7> now my guess is that a service pack has fixed this issue, which i'm running (which is why i can't repro it), and the QA machine is not
<2> it's possible, you realize, that a wild pointer of YOURs caused the error
<7> except my code is entirely managed, through and through
<2> and you believe that will stop all wild pointers?
<7> from our side, yes; from a bug in the execution engine or a third party control, no
<9> hey peter
<9> i'm in dc
<7> heh, i have .5 MB in string data alone, interesting
<7> 7,767 string objects on the GC heap
<9> yay
<7> !dumpheap -stat = useful
<9> I find .NET quite bulky
<9> where do you type that pet?
<7> 565 byte[] = 3 MB
<7> in a windows debugger with the SOS extension loaded
<7> i'm debugging a full minidump of a managed process
<7> it crashed in the CLR itself during a GC, awesome powah
<7> heh, !dumpheap by itself in this process, probably a mistake
<7> debugger is now hung and taking nearly 100% cpu
<9> ah
<9> yea, I dunno, with my use of .NET in real apps i've been disapointed with how insanely bloated it gets quickly
<7> doesn't really bother me if the app is taking hundreds of megabytes or not as long as a GC fires when it needs to and not very often
<7> heh, should just kill the debugger
<7> it is printing stuff out, but the gc heap is too big
<7> oh wow
<7> it finished
<7> 43,336 objects heh
<7> the trade off for more working set is fast allocations (the heap almost grows like the stack)
<7> as nothing gets removed from the heap until a GC takes place, there's no fragmentation or finding free blocks, etc
<7> http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/1100/GCI/
<7> how it works, etc
<7> ah tech, didn't see your previous comment
<7> why are you in DC?
<9> gf..
<9> well, ex, that I just got back together with
<9> i'll probably be back her a few times this summer
<9> we'll have to meetup for dinner one of the trips
<9> or lunch
<9> that was a hell of a delay on response btw :)
<7> yeah, i keep my irssi window discrete at work
<7> i didn't scroll back in the buffer until now
<9> I msged ya peter
<3> why didn't you message me?
<3> why did you decide to leave me out?
<3> jerk!
<10> Noidea!!
<10> tjena!!
<7> noidea is the ****i
<7> ****
<7> that is
<10> hi peterhu!!!
<10> ping
<3> hey!
<3> .md?
<3> wtf is that?
<3> you're not the Kristy we used to know, are you?
<2> so, who's comeing to Yellowstone this summer?
<7> who's kristy?
<3> I can't tell you, because I don't have ops.
<3> what are you doing in yellowstone?
<3> there are big bears there.
<3> mean ones.
<2> I live here
<10> noidea are you so sweety..thanks
<2> we had a couple bison about 20 yds from the "front gate" the other night
<2> no bears yet this season though
<3> did you shoot them?
<3> grizzlies, or black bears?
<2> not in season
<3> black bears are like big friendly dogs
<3> grizzlies aren't so much.
<2> it was a 420lb black last fall... game & fish got it
<7> i'll never return to yellowstone because a bear swipped my picinick basket
<2> good, we don't want your kind anyhow
<3> that's Jellystone park peterhu.
<7> close enough
<3> No
<3> Jellystone park is in Wisconsin.
<7> oh, it's an actual place?
<7> pfft
<7> close enough
<2> we let peter write code our lives may depend on?
<3> http://www.jellystonebagley.com/
<7> mmm jelly stone bagel
<3> I haven't been to yellowstone in forever.
<3> not since before I can remember.
<7> heh i have 4MB of available memory
<3> that's more than you should ever need.
<7> trying to see if it's low memory conditions that cause this crash or GCs
<7> erm
<7> or the not having the service pack
<7> so i wrote a process to eat up all memory on the system
<3> you don't report out of memory in your app?
<3> how hard is that?
<3> you new
<3> it throws an exception
<7> peak mem usage: 1,067,624 K
<7> heh
<3> you catch it and print "out of memory"
<7> no
<7> i'm diagnosing what appears to be a CLR bug
<7> my application crashes during a garbage collection on a machine with a different runtime version (not service pack 1)
<3> you're cleaning showers now?
<7> that machine has a lot less physical memory, so i wonder if it's just happening because it GC's more often
<7> heh, down goes that application
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