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<0> Part of what makes those dudes terrorists is that they refuse to fly a flag
<1> ask them to use undies, might work
<0> Hehe
<1> :)
<0> (Obviously there are a lot of other requirements, I'm not saying you're a terrorist if you don't fly a flag)
<1> indeed
<0> (Or undies)
<2> Anyone use xchat and know what the progress bars next to the text entry area mean?
<2> one always seems empty, and one fluctates up and down seemingly at random. I can't find anything it correlates with
<0> They measure the signal to noise ratio
<0> The more BS you spew, the more full they appear
<0> Maybe you're reading them backwards
<2> Wow, they just went way up :P
<0> :D
<3> thanks for your help guys, i'll be back tomorrows
<2> Let's all hide when he comes back. Maybe then, he'll go away
<4> lol
<2> boggles the mind, it really does
<4> 'tis a good tihng that minds need boggling every once in a while
<5> with atoi i can convert char to interger.. but what about if i want to convert integer to char?
<2> Truth
<2> I wouldn't recommend atoi. If you're amiable to external libraries, have a look at boost::lexical_cast from the boost library
<2> Otherwise, try stringstream from the Standard Library (#include <sstream>)
<5> i'm currently learning c++ :P i'm not enough advanced :P
<2> Great - then stringstream will be a nice little C++ism for you
<2> Whereas atoi is nasty old C standard library. Bleh - yhou don
<2> you don't want that
<5> can i only use stringstream(char, int) ?
<2> It works just like any other stream - just dealing with strings, rather than file handles
<2> You have seen std::string, I hope?
<5> no i dont know what mean :: i w'il see it in a couple of page hehe :P
<2> Hmm. If you're learning from a book, you might want to reconsider your choice
<5> i just want to do test for see if i good understand :P and i need to convert var iNUmber to char
<2> Something that's introduced you to char* as a "string" is not a good start
<5> how can i should learn?
<2> We normally point people to "Accelerated C++" by Koenig and Moo
<5> non i have learning string from array :P
<2> Well, I doubt you want a lecture in why that's a bad idea
<2> If you *must* use the C library, you can create strings from primitive types most easily with sprintf, imo
<6> hi
<2> char someBuffer[20]; snprintf(someBuffer, 20, "%i", someInt);
<2> But you'd be well advised to know that that's not good C++. In fact, it's very bad
<5> okay! thanks!
<2> Because people are scared of both learning and thinking for themselves
<2> I see it all the time at university. People won't actually do the *thinking* involved
<4> it's been a long time since I was at University...and my recollection wasn't that they were all intellectually lazy
<2> So when problems aren't mechanical any longer, they flounder. Even though 60 seconds of thought about what's going on, and 2 minutes in the library/on the net would give them exactly what they need
<5> in wich file was described snprintf?
<2> No, not everyone certainly. But more than I'd like
<4> geezus you want to learn snprintf instead of stringstream?
<6> anyone here done parallel computer programming?
<4> corstan yes
<2> Part of the problem with the UK administrations current drive to get 50% of high school leavers to attend university
<6> I am not any expert on serial code, but how hard is it if you can put that into words?
<2> whether they have the appitude to learn or not.
<6> parallel
<4> synchronization is one of the big worries (perhaps the biggest)
<6> is it attractive to a programmer with the ability of coding to parallel computers?
<6> to be a
<6> does it make you a better coder in C/C++/F77/F95 ?
<2> it's a skill everyone will need soon, and every programmer would be well advised to learn
<2> But I fully expect the entire toolset to change within 10 years to make the current problems a lot simpler
<4> there really aren't any "good" lanugages for it that are readily available to describe doing it
<6> how about demand for workforce?
<4> Asriel yes, some things simply _need_ to be done to the languages we use... e.g. for_all(....) which would imply/guarantee NO order of execution so we can get some automatic parallization for stuff
<2> *nod*
<4> I think everyone since Ada forgetting about rendezvous as a part of the language is / has been a mistake
<2> It's actually starting to look like it'll be my research topic at phd. Started reading the theory at the advice of faculty, and it's very interesting
<4> I'm not as convinced as many that it can be done solely in the library
<4> Asriel cool
<6> Asriel, what was your graduate topic?
<6> M.Sc.
<2> don't know yet - not got that far
<6> you said phd.
<2> though if I can find a good university who'll take me for Phd, I'll just skip Msc
<4> nod
<2> it's not a prerequisite for Phds in the UK (in fact, many people don't bother with it)
<2> hell, Bsc isn't a prerequisite if you can get funding and someone to supervise you
<6> you are un undergraduate in software theory?
<2> Mathematics major, with a CS minor
<6> ok
<2> when I get closer to graduation, if I read the material I want to work in and find I have big gaps in my knowledge, then I'll pick an Msc to clear up any defects
<2> Otherwise, ***uming I can find a place, I'll just skip to Phd (if I can't, then Msc will be forced onto me :)
<6> do you work?
<2> No, I'm broken in many ways
<2> But I was a professional programmer for years
<6> how was that?
<6> miss it :) ?
<2> lucrative, but increasingly soul destroying
<2> only the steady income
<2> odd contract jobs don't stop the bank account being on a downward slope
<6> "increasingly soul destroying" : tell me ....
<2> but I planned for a couples years for this, so I can see it out :)
<2> of course, who can say what the future holds. 5 years ago, I'd have said I'd never step foot inside school again
<7> any cs majors in CA here
<4> is CA Canada?
<4> or Kalifornia??
<7> cali
<2> maybe in 18 months when I've finished the BSc, I'll decide I don't want any more formal edumacation
<6> ok, what education did you have prior to working as a programmer?
<2> High school (well, UK equivilant). But demonstrable aptitude, I was hired before I even got my dipolma
<6> as a programmer?, strange
<4> why? my son was also
<8> I'm in CA
<8> though, I'm a CompE
<7> what school
<2> If you're good, and you have a bit of luck, formal education really isn't a requirement anywhere. Except maybe doctoring and lawyering
<8> I went to the University of Illinois
<7> oh
<2> though I think you can sit the bar without a law degree, so maybe not even lawyering
<4> pharmacist in this country you _must_ go to school
<4> perhaps still called chemist in UK
<2> pharmacy is more common, but chemist is still used
<2> no idea if they need a degree here. Don't *think* so, given that they can't serve anything more than over the counter stuff without signed prescriptions anyway
<2> it's not the job it used to be
<6> what is?
<6> :)
<4> here also (very few compound) but the knowledge required about the drugs themselves... whew
<2> no idea if they know anything much here. I don't think I've even spoken to mine, ever
<2> and I go in once every 6 weeks to pickup refills of alergy drugs. he just hands them over
<9> how do i install boost libs for VS 8_0 ?
<4> the ones I know, took all the same stuff as an MD, then 2 more years of just drugs
<2> seems like an odd career choice. a little more work, they could have been MD themselves
<4> Cloud9 -bjam -sTOOLS=msvc install I think
<4> or maybe bjam -sTOOLS=vc-8_0
<4> I'd have to check..though I think I'm still building the libraries w/ 7.1 for the regression testing and just testing w/ 8.0
<4> that stuff runs at home.. I'm still at the office...can answer better in an hour
<9> do i have to set anything ?
<9> like env vars?
<4> did you read the "getting started" section of the docs?
<2> hmm. looks like you need an Msc in Pharmacalogical studies and a years "in situ" training
<2> maybe I should make more effort to talk to mine
<9> found it a bit confusing, wanted to double check
<4> well, I got 8.0 after I started doing regresson tests for 7.1.. I think I left the build alone, but can't speak for sure
<2> right, time to be off. see people on the morrow
<4> I'd have to go look at some scripts from home
<4> yeah, here too
<6> vawjrwrk, the reason for asking you about parallel computing was in relation to a graduate work (M.Sc.) exploring the efficiency of various parallel computer when run a really resource-intensive piece of code
<6> perhaps a numerical weather model
<6> model(s)
<6> just wondered if that was a wise choice or not
<6> ?
<10> Where the hell is 221.201.* ?
<6> China
<6> 221.201.0.0
<10> Thanks
<11> www.dnsstuff.com ;)
<10> firewalled
<10> Seems that soon I'll need a complete list of all chinese IP's too (next to korean)
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