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<0> And in some BASIC machines, the lines of a program could easily be renumbered.
<1> MrAshe I'm sorry I don't
<1> VoHuhes have you ever read anything on "how to pick a container" ???
<0> Yes. It's in Barbara Moo's book.
<0> The vector and map are two of the container types.
<1> then why the lecture here? you think we don't understand the attributes of the different containers
<2> vawjr, depends who you mean by *we* ;-)
<0> I was just saying that with numbering, similar to old BASIC, one can have the advantages of the map and the vector.
<0> To be able to select the n-th element of a map, it *could* be done with a slight modification of the B-tree algorithm, which the map uses.
<0> And then, there would be little need for vectors.
<3> VoHuhes: not in constant time...(and most std::map implementations are based on red-black trees)
<0> The'[re based on red-boack trees and not on B-trees?
<1> yes
<4> no need for vectors?
<1> VoHuhes you should read "Effective STL" and learn about ALL the reasons to pick a container
<0> with a slight modification of the B-tree algorithm ...



<1> VoHuhes you're babbling
<0> maybe call it an m-vector.
<1> VoHuhes can you p*** it to a C program and have it work?
<0> I did implement it in C, the regular 2.3 tree.
<1> no no no
<1> I mean can you p*** your modified btree thingie to a C program as an array?
<1> if not, it's not going to come close to replacing std::vector
<3> vawjr: the path I see this conversation taking seems either fruitless or very long...
<0> The array could be p***ed to a conversion program.
<1> yeah, I'm gonna drop out, I dont' even know why he started typing
<0> I"ll have the C program soon, which converts an array to a 2.3 tree.
<1> fine, nobody cares
<5> Off to office
<6> w00t: http://www.parkscomputing.com/barcode.html
<6> FIGJAM
<7> bing bong
<8> morning
<9> evening
<8> a good IDE for linux
<8> who can recomnad me ?
<10> emacs+cvs+gcc+gdb
<10> ;p
<8> emacs ;)
<10> g++ sorry
<8> let us try that
<8> 10x
<10> emacs or vi, i won't go into that debate ;p
<11> 13n
<8> k
<12> I've not seen kdevelop for a while, but it looked promising a few years ago
<12> there's also probably some C++ plugins for Eclipse
<8> asriel
<8> what is Elclips ?
<8> Eclipse , sorry
<12> Try google :)
<8> k
<12> or just eclipse.org
<8> k
<8> Eclipse is an open source community whose projects are focused on providing an extensible development platform and application frameworks for building software
<8> that's eclipse ;)
<11> i thought ecplipse was the IDE.
<11> -p
<8> i dunno
<13> hi, can anyone tell me where those environment variables, or whatever they are, are set in Visual Studio for things that look like $(programfiles) and so on.. i.e. how do i see what their value is?
<13> or wherever they are set
<14> click the macros >> button
<13> hi, can anyone tell me (specifically for visual studio express) how i find out the value of those variables in the options used for include directories, etc... such as $(VSInstallDir) , etc, all those things with a $( ).. ? thanks
<15> [09:09] <@vawjrwrk> click the macros >> button
<13> where's the macros >> button? are you talking to me?
<14> yes I was talking to you
<13> oh, thanks, but i don't know where the macros button is
<14> Cannelloni go to one of the places you think you might want to USE the $(somename) ... click on what's there, select edit, click the macros>> button
<14> like any project, right click, properties, configuration properties, general properties, general, output directory
<13> there isn't a button for me, but i think i was confused because i hadn't initially set my environment variables but now i can find them by typing "set" in the command prompt
<14> Cannelloni huh??
<14> I thought you were talking about VS
<13> i am
<14> well, that's where you find a macros>> button
<14> because VSInstallDir ain't in "set"
<13> but i wanted to know how to find out what a thing with a $ sign was referring to
<13> like $(programfiles) or whatever



<13> it is now
<13> because i set it
<14> no no no
<13> oops
<14> VS uses it internally
<13> what's wrong with that
<13> oh
<13> well then i'm quite confused.. if i go to tools, options, projects and solutions, vc++ directories, then there are a bunch of things that have $(somevariablename)\path, etc, etc
<14> yes,
<13> where are those values kept, internally?
<14> some are internal, some are environment variables
<14> if you want to SEE what they are currently set to, click on thge dropdown, select edit, THEN push the macros>> button
<14> many of them depend on the current settings for your project
<13> i don't want to be a nuisance, but i don't know what you're talking about when you say click on the dropdown, select edit and then push the macros>> button, i can't see one anywhere, or even edit.. i'm using the visual studio express
<14> is there an Ooutput directory field on your properties
<13> ahh, there you go
<13> thank you
<14> "That's what we're here for" 6 Victor A. Wagner Jr.
<13> sharp
<4> dude
<4> it's one lazy thursday
<14> and it's lunch at the brew pub today... 1 hour
<14> and my application for the "mug club" was approved (only took 10 months) two days ago
<4> is that where they include your best mug shot in an album?
<7> mug club wtf is that?
<14> ah, they have a limited number of mugs that they'll keep at the pub... you pay an annual fee and when you order beer, they server you 20oz instead of 16oz
<14> and this Saturday night, there's a 4 hour party...all you can eat BBQ and free beer
<7> gotcha
<14> they throw two of those a yeare
<14> year
<7> free beer...where?
<7> :)
<14> well, there's about a 10 month waiting list for the club but at the local brew pub here in Jackson
<16> sounds fun
<16> they got wings?
<16> Eat all the wings you can
<16> take a laxative
<16> **** it all out
<16> or
<16> see i don't like all you can eat because it promotes fat, greedy ****s to eat more
<7> forget the wings...take the beer
<16> yah
<16> beer is good
<16> haha
<16> omg
<16> gomogmogmogm
<14> BBQ instead of wings...not sure what they'll be Q'ing
<16> oh
<16> hrm
<16> where is taking place?
<7> too far from you...
<16> probably
<17> hello :)
<17> anybody online ?
<7> no
<17> need some help if u please :)
<7> no way
<17> ok
<17> this is the url
<17> http://www.noidea128.org/sourcefiles/16270.html
<17> :))
<7> and?
<7> ./ #c
<7> ./j #c
<17> did not get any help there
<17> :)
<7> you havent asked a question or given a problem description yet
<17> i want to write to a file from a0000
<17> to a9999
<17> and i don`t know what doesnt work
<17> it writes some $%^$%^
<17> :|
<7> if you insist on using C you could use fprintf instead of fputs
<17> ok ... i`ll try


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