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<0> <grins>
<1> D4RKW4R : you'll need to write a keyboard driver
<1> but someone eager enough to cheat, can always plug a hardware device between the real keyboard and the motherboard
<1> so basically vawjr is right
<2> But may be i can difficult the way
<0> or some random game
<2> mines is an online game
<2> a rol game
<3> I thought there were lots of trojans logging key strokes
<2> hmm
<1> D4RKW4R : the whole point of a modern operating system is abstraction - so that as a sofwtare developer you don't have to - and often just can't - be aware of specific hardware
<1> so when OS gives you a keystroke, you should believe it's a real one, and can't really tell them appart
<2> exception as a software developer, are you sure about that?
<4> yup
<1> D4RKW4R : I worked in a company that developed a virtual hard disk. No software could tell our virtual disk from a physical one.
<4> we work pretty hard to abstract the stuff, and in a protected environment (winNT and ilk) it's very difficult to get around it
<2> :o
<5> there, all done with my mysql membership and role providers
<5> now to write the unit tests
<4> D4RKW4R is this some MMORPG you're worried about people "cheating" at?
<2> A bit yes
<2> i don't want people to chit in my game
<2> cheat*
<4> tell them not to
<2> i told them. but i also want to be sure they will not have the opportunity to cheat
<1> they will always have
<6> would be cool if you could prevent players from cheating on their girlfriends with C++ code
<6> metametaprogramming
<2> But they don't write their own cheats, they use ready made software
<1> metaphycsprogramming
<6> hehe
<1> D4RKW4R : someone will write a new cheat, and the rest will use it
<2> so if i can block the use of this common softwares they will not chat again
<2> exception but at least they won't use the software they find in google.com
<2> and if someone write a new cheat i'm sure he only give the cheat to his friends
<2> and it will be only one cheat
<2> and i will be able to manage one cheat, but not a hundred of cheats that are available at google
<1> D4RKW4R : who do you think wrote all the hundreds of cheats "available at google" ?
<2> read this: http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/code/2632/v_tec.htm
<1> people who only gave them to their friends ?
<2> Is in spanish, but go directly to the code.
<2> everytime someone press a key in their keyboard there is a "scan code" of 8 bits.
<2> that is loaded into the 60h port.
<2> for example if we press the key 'a' 09h interruption occurs
<1> it's great, if you are writing a DOS game
<1> and, it's also very easy to override
<2> But at least will be a bit more difficult
<1> a second after your program loads, another TSR would hijack the keyboard interrupt and restore it to original value
<2> That code is written in pascal
<1> D4RKW4R : I'm repeating for the last time. This. Approach. Will. Only. Work. For DOS
<4> TSR ???? you wrote your game so that it runs in DOS ??
<2> ok.
<2> No!!
<2> My game only runs in Windows
<2> And is written in Visual Basic
<7> Oh. Deer. Lowered.
<2> exception
<1> vawjr : I'm speaking hypothetically. even in DOS, after you register a keyboard interrupt handler - there is no guarantee at all
<2> Please download the example called testscan.zip at the last page of this site: http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/code/2632/v_tec.htm
<2> When you run it press F2
<6> unless you make it a system service...
<1> D4RKW4R : mommy told me never to take code from strangers
<2> Then press any key and you'll see that it can tell you which key are you pressing.
<1> D4RKW4R : did you try to run it from windows ?
<2> exception may be you can try to help me instead of being like that
<2> exception I AM IN WINDOWS RIGHT NOW
<2> Download it and see it with your own eyes
<2> It tells you the scan code and also the ascii
<1> D4RKW4R : great, so why won't you get a virtual keyboard driver, and see that this program would also detect keystrokes that did not come from a real keyboard
<1> since it runs in a virtual dos box inside windows and has no access to a real keyboard
<2> ups, when i use a kyestroke emulator the programms close
<1> then use a better one
<7> D4RKW4R, that is a DOS program. It is NOT a Win32 program.
<7> How in the hell can we get that across to you?
<2> And what's the difference of using a DOS program
<2> It runs
<2> And it works in windows
<4> D4RKW4R you can get the scancode now
<4> in windows
<2> And why this program do it?
<4> do what?
<4> I think you're not seeing what you think you are
<2> vawjr download it and see
<4> D4RKW4R no
<4> I said I can write a progam that gets the scancodes
<4> but I can't be SURE that a key was pressed
<2> ok.
<2> Thank you
<4> your ***umption that YOUR program can tell the difference is questionable
<2> sure
<8> Hi all. can i use some object with switch somehow? i.e. i have cl*** rTest{}; rTest test; switch(test){}
<1> Sergey : no, switch only works with integer types
<8> ic, ty
<1> the closest you can get is implementing operator() and doing switch (test())
<1> but even then operator() would have to return an integer type
<7> You could implement a cast operator that returns an integer value
<7> That would let you do switch (myobj)
<0> merkins led to the slaughter on the altar of football (USA vs Italy)
<9> but your cases would have to be integers
<10> bwahaha bealtine
<10> let's hope so
<7> Soccer is for losers that couldn't make the real football team.
<6> nooo
<9> that's not what the rest of the world thinks
<0> heh
<0> you do realise the world cup has "other" countries in ti
<7> Oh, is there a tournament of some kind going on?
<6> football is for men who like to grope each other
<0> unlike the world series
<10> bealtine: waaaat? I thought it was just two countries: USA and The World
<5> wtf is an "other" country
<5> you will all be ours soon enough
<7> The World Series is named after a now-defunct newspaper.
<7> It has no geographical meaning.
<5> just like baseball has no meaning
<2> USA will loose
<10> aye, let's hope so
<7> Indeed.
<2> Argentina wil win the world cup
<10> 3-0 please.
<0> like the "world" bit is a giveaway...
<2> Yesterday won 6-0 vs Serbia & Montenegro
<5> the only true sport is football
<5> and not you euro's fruity football
<2> :)
<7> College > Pro, anyway
<4> Solamente "real football" is for guys that can't keep running for 45 minutes without 90 breaks in play
<7> Just like FSU > VT
<5> negative
<7> Hey, I played soccer (football, whatever).
<10> vawjr++
<7> I know all about that.
<5> FSU is and always will be our bitches
<7> But I prefer American football.
<5> if we could just get a non-thug QB
<4> yeah, it's for fans with short attention spans, too, lol
<10> lol vawjr
<0> and adverts
<5> pfft
<5> it's the perfect game
<7> Geez, peterhu, FSU ****ed harder last year than they have in a long time.
<10> don't forget the TV time every 2 minutes
<5> watch for 30 seconds, eat food
<7> And still pwned VT.
<4> Cowmoo I haven't recently, but referee'd for 10 years
<5> FSU got lucky
<7> Well, true.
<10> ah
<10> well time to hit up the TV, see the US get pwnt
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