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<0> dextre also a rather pointless exercise
<1> Well I appreciate your help with stack based logic
<2> well, if you want to, I wouldn't say no. But you don't have to
<1> Quantum`` ofcourse it does
<2> I still don't buy the brain as anything other than a weirdly wired computer
<1> Asriel I can't write 'Asriel'
<3> IRR: no, it doesnt
<1> Whats peterhu's name? Peter Hudson?
<0> Huene ??
<2> Huene
<0> I don't recall
<2> ***uming he's not lying to us
<2> I would imagine within 100 years, we'll be able to "build" a brain
<0> I thought JBlitzen says "gaey people always lie"
<1> Quantum`` then how does it solve the sorting problem?
<1> In less than n log n
<0> IRR who cares? sorting is only necessary for entities that can't grasp the whole gestalt at once
<4> lol
<2> I would take issue with anyone really claiming the brain is O(1). The processing would be unmeasurable
<4> humans can't solve the whole gestalt at once.. TSP is still too complex for O(1)
<2> who's to say it's not just so fast at some things, we can't actually quantize the difference
<3> Why do you think that the human brain cannot be simulated fully by an algorithm?
<3> To simulate human brain (more or less) _fully_, you would have to model each neuron and each synapse. There are roughly 10^11 neurons and perhaps 10^14 synapses in the brain. The operating frequency (firing rate) is around 100Hz. Even disregarding all the complicated chemical stuff going on, each synapse would have to be modelled
<3> by a system of PDE's. So you have a system of 10^14 coupled differential equations and you need enough precision to get 100 accurate data points per second.
<3> Good luck.
<0> 100Hz? I thought it was around 15Hz
<2> you *could* say the same thing about "modeling" processor
<1> Thats the nervous system
<2> we're not quite at 10^11 transisters yet, but some day
<1> Brain works faster yet
<2> doesn't mean we can't build/emulate processors
<1> Its not really a question of so many neurons, as it is of the system architecture.
<0> IRR ok, I was thinking of the "flicker vertigo" frequency, thought that pretty siezed up the brain
<1> vawjr different aspects of the visual system are able to detect input at different frequencies.
<1> If you look at a tube light from the corner of the eye, you'll see it flicker.
<0> I was referring to the vertigo aspect
<1> vawjr question: if nurons can't fire faster than 100 hz, how can we hear sound at upto 15000 hz?
<0> also, I thought my wife had commented on a strong 15Hz signal in the brain during an epileptic siezure
<0> IRR you have a sensor (inner ear) that says 14,351Hz
<1> how
<0> physics (just like a tuning fork)
<1> Well, informatically, how is the vibration of that tuning fork detected?
<0> and I've seen enough neural recordings to KNOW a single neuron cannot fire faster than every ms, because the pulse is that long
<0> c'mon, think!!! by something that resonates at 14,315Hz
<1> It has to be converted into a neural signal somewhere.
<0> yeah, and???
<1> vawjr so we have 14,295 such tuning forks in the head?
<0> you tell me what's in the cochlea (sp)
<1> A train of receptors.
<0> how many?
<1> Which fire like the colonial riflemen. trrrrt
<0> no
<0> if you want to carry this to extreme, how do we see "blue"
<1> Thats different
<0> than sound? I don't think so
<1> light does a photo chemical reaction in the eyes
<1> Not the same in the ear
<0> it exactness, correct, in concept, I don't think so
<1> vawjr I did coursework in university. 1 course in human perception. This is what they taught about the ears.
<4> are base cl*** destructors always called ? or are they overridden by the deriving cl***?
<4> i remember i have to virtual it or something
<2> depends on their virtual status
<2> well, either way, the base ones are
<2> it's the higher in the chain ones you need to worry about
<2> general advice is to always virtualise unless you have a good reason not to
<3> just like in java...
<4> virualize everything ? ??
<2> no, just your destructors
<4> thanks!
<5> General advice is to make your destructor virtual if that cl*** is supposed to be inherited from :p
<4> yeah. i think i read this in the faq.. kinda forgot
<3> MrAshe: virtualize me baby
<5> And it's only if you delete it through a base pointer
<5> You love my big hard stack huh
<3> owwww yeaaaa
<3> can I pop your stack?
<3> pleeeeaaase
<4> thanks
<4> lol
<4> u guys need to get out more
<5> Could be worse, I could be a cannabis smoker
<5> Then what I type would make even less sense
<5> I thought it was a caterpillar in Alice
<3> why do we call Na sodium and not natrium ugh
<0> why do we call it lead instead of plumbium ?
<3> point taken
<3> its just in dutch we call Na natrium
<3> so I always confuse it
<2> Solamente - Awake?
<2> Solamente - Well, in case you have name catching on, you might like http://www.joeganley.com/code/jslisp.html
<5> Hah
<5> Joe Ganley, Ph D
<5> Wtf, testimonials hahah
<5> Sometimes code samples are just pitiful
<5> This one has a bunch of gotos, about 1 line of code for 5 lines of comments
<5> And even p***ing a char[]'s \0 for a NULL
<5> Like blah( &whatever[9] );
<5> And you're like "wtf??"
<5> And 3 lines below there's a comment saying it's p***ing null
<5> :/
<0> the hazards of learning programming from looking at **** on the net
<6> of having cowmoo teach you
<1> peterhu == Peter Huene?
<6> yeah
<1> You are in the acknowledgements section of my research report
<1> "My thanks to the members of the Undernet C++ community of highly competent if eccentric IT professionals, particularly Peter Huene who, thanks to his former work with Microsoft, provided me invaluable help with Microsoft Intermediate Language; and Adam Wright who helped me to gain the habitude of stack based programming."
<2> under "Keeping JB `busy' whilst research begin conducted"
<7> stop trying to fool us Peter Hussein
<6> heh
<6> cool, IRR
<0> I still say that MSIL is mostly lifted from IR-81 published at Vrieje in Netherlands
<6> probably
<6> guh, the mysql database my hosting company offers, ****s
<6> no transactions!
<6> how can you call yourself a database without transactions
<6> i need to figure out which version they're running, it's probably just old (i know transactions are relatively new to mysql)
<8> 'morning
<0> yup
<6> ah, if the tables use InnoDB as the engine, the transactions work, gotcha
<6> the default is MyISAM
<9> Hey, Asriel. That's the link that got me to make my interpreter.
<2> ah :)
<2> wondered if you'd seen it :)
<9> Yep.
<9> What motivated me to try my own is the fact that he uses a big if/else if block.
<9> Whereas I made a hash table of keywords.
<9> Since it's JavaScript. Duh.
<9> Still, his implementation is better. He actually knew the language when he wrote his interpreter.
<6> seeing wing foot brings me back
<6> winged foot
<6> spent many summers there as a kid, until we get a membership at orienta
<9> Ever played it?
<6> was too young, caddy'd a few times for my father
<6> he's still a member
<9> Nice. Tell him Solamente wants to play.
<6> as is my sister, i'm sure she plays it all the time, since she lives in NY
<9> Chris Berman admitted yesterday that he sneaked into the club to watch the 1974 US Open.
<9> He had friends that lived on the 3rd green (IIRC)
<6> my father was briefly on the board of directors, so he still has a little sway
<6> he's been a member for forever
<9> So I'm guessing he's up there in the gallery.
<6> it's possible, wouldn't know
<6> he still plays it a few times a year, but he mostly goes up for pine valley i think
<9> My brother (who's 12 years older than I am) played his first real game of golf with me this week. He made par on back-to-back par-fives here.
<6> nice
<9> But it was the 10 on the par-four third that hurt him.
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