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<0> will there be any subtle difference, if i use the virtual access specifier during inheritance? (if am not going for multiple inheritance)
<1> hello. does anyone know how to get the cpu name in a msdos program without using the cpuid instruction? (i need it to work on cpus that don't support cpuid)
<0> template<cl*** T> cl*** allocator;
<0> what this means?
<2> it forward-declares a cl*** template named 'allocator' that accepts one type as parameter.
<0> ah, cool
<0> ty _m_, yesterday const char*msg worked with the throw-catch. :)
<0> just repeating the question that i asked, will there be any subtle difference, if i use the virtual access specifier during inheritance? (if am not going for multiple inheritance)
<0> s/subtle/ /
<0> eg: cl*** A{ ..}; cl*** B:virtual public A{...} , is it same as cl*** A{ ..}; cl*** B:public A{...} ;
<2> No, it's not the same.
<2> This special case will behave quite similar, though.
<0> yeah i meant, in case of not having multiple inheritance
<2> The object layout will still be different. However, you wouldn't care in most cases.
<0> _m_, am interested to know the difference. where should i look?
<0> why am asking bcoz, if they are behaving similar in case of not having multiple inheritance, then isn't it always better to use virtual
<2> Some people will say it is better.
<2> There's a good chance the object will be larger by the size of one pointer, though.
<0> that was my point. i wanted to be clear, will there be any problem if we always use *virtual*
<2> Increased size is one potential problem.
<0> you mean, the pointer for vtable? (am just starting c++, no indepth knowledge)
<0> asked about the extra pointer... what type of pointer is it?
<2> No, a pointer to the subobject (which will have its own vtable pointer if the implementation uses vtables).
<0> thanks, i got the point
<2> http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/size_of_cl***_object.html
<2> That page explains it to some extent.
<0> cool, let me read it.. :)
<2> basically you get struct derived { struct base { ... } ... }; vs. struct derived { ...; base *p; struct base { ... } } layout.
<2> The base subject will have a different vtable pointer that normal base objects.
<2> You can't rely on the exact position of the base subobject in case of virtual inheritance.
<2> (because the layout will get modified again, in case of diamond inheritance)
<0> yeah, got it. :)
<3> what do i need to compile c++ with ms windows gui
<4> a compiler
<4> calc vs2004e
<5> Nothing found for 'vs2004e'.
<4> calc vs2005e
<5> Nothing found for 'vs2005e'.
<3> im confused do i need ms visual studio or another package
<4> calc vs2005
<5> Nothing found for 'vs2005'.
<4> gah
<4> C++ is a language...VC is a compiler for the language
<4> some compilers are better than others
<2> calc vc2005e
<5> vc2005e = Visual C++ 2005 Express (aka VC++ 8). Available for download at - http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/ . Get the Tools Refresh at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=afd04ff1-9d16-439a-9a5e-e13eb0341923&displaylang=en
<3> beatline : it's 3.2 GB
<4> life is hard
<3> :)
<6> vc++ might as well be a language.
<6> embrace and extend.
<6> vc++ code definitely has a shot at compilation errors using other compilers.
<2> Did you mean break and mutilate?
<6> exactly.
<3> bealtine : thanks ill start with that
<4> there are alternatives but thats a nice package imho
<6> bad idea.
<6> it's nice, but horrible to start with.
<4> eh why?
<6> harder for new users to determine what's c++ and what's microsoft.
<6> they start coding vc++ as though it were c++
<4> and (for instance) gcc is better somehow?
<3> :)
<6> generally speaking, i see gcc tutorials with ansi c++ code.
<6> i see vc++ tutorials with win32 api code.
<4> i know its confusing to understand the difference between api and C++
<6> not necessarily that...
<6> it's just that there's way too much attention on win32 api (read more than none) and not enough on c++.
<4> a console app is a console app...
<6> indeed.
<6> my compiler is cl.exe even.
<6> just making suggestions.
<4> sure..and valid points...but as a vc2005 is a nice ide/compiler combo
<6> the ide i'd have to take issue with
<4> haha
<4> dont run it on win98 :)
<6> i definitely use notepad :P
<3> i think the concept is similar to jbuilder,netbeans
<3> everything integrated
<3> guess
<6> after a half hour of trying to get static libraries to link in vs, i just gave up and switched to command line compiling and linking.
<6> there's like 999999 options.
<6> none of which are the ones i need to adjust.
<4> ummm its not that frigging hard
<6> i know, it's probably way too easy.
<6> i just haven't used vs.
<6> and the command line is much easier for me to work with.
<4> ummm i like stabing myself in the eye with knitting needles
<4> i dont inflict it on others
<6> me too :P
<6> heh
<6> that's where we part ways.
<6> i will preach the virtues of needle eyestabbing for evermore.
<6> and off to cl*** i go, peace :P
<4> the holy knitting needle of antioch?
<7> can any1 help me on c?
<4> #c
<8> Off to office
<9> bye all
<10> hi
<11> does anyone know where there is some examples of generating random english sentences?
<10> anyone worked on lambda calculus
<12> yes and yes
<11> lol
<12> |P|H|P| not in C++, but any of the "pick phrase from column a, then b, then c and put them together" are all over the web. the tricky part is coming up w/ the phrases
<11> I'm reading up on sentence structure
<12> hexv not in a while, and the only lambda calculus type thing availalbe in C++ that I know of is www.boost.org
<13> hi all
<12> lo
<13> I used the code given at: http://bpeers.com/articles/tricks/ for Replacing the statusbar's "Ready"
<11> thanks vawjrwrk
<11> 8 )
<13> but it doesn't seem to work, has anybody an idea why?
<12> no clue
<12> |P|H|P| I have such a program on my system at home, but I'm in the office
<11> I'm gonna work on a php version first and then just convert it... I created one years ago but have since lost it in the mazework I call a filesystem
<12> that's what file searches are for
<14> usuall the columns are just organized into noun, adjective, and verb columns
<14> then they always form a prescriptively correct sentence
<14> even if they don't always make sense descriptively
<12> the only really sucessful ones I've seen used phrases... trying it w/ word parts always came ou tnon-sense
<11> have you ever tried a filesearch using windows built in file search? itz easier to walk around and ask beggars on the street for information faster then it works
<12> |P|H|P| whatever...but you don't have to wait for it, you can go do other things... I'm running it right now
<11> lol crap
<11> http://www.wallace.net/grammar/resource.html
<11> check out that
<11> alot o 404 on that one
<11> crap...
<13> I used the WM_SETMESSAGESTRING in order to replace the AFX_IDS_IDLEMESSAGE dynamically
<13> it is working but only if I put my mouse over an icon
<13> the text that appears then in the status bar is the one I set
<13> but the status bar text is not modified as soon as I define a new text
<13> any idea of what is missing?
<15> can i ask a vc++ question here
<16> just ask
<15> what is the ".plg" file that VC++ creates when compiling a project? it looks like a log file
<15> Project LoG" maybe?
<17> what version? 6?
<16> what version of vc++ ?
<4> my version doesnt create plg files :)
<15> yeah
<15> 6.0
<17> who knows
<16> delete it
<4> see topic in #vc++
<13> yes it is a log file
<17> it doesn't get generated for 7.0+
<13> it shows what it does as it compiles
<15> lol ok bealtine
<4> calc vc2005e
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