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<0> what do you think _bstr_t::~_bstr_t() does
<1> dextre difference between what?
<2> destroys the _bstr_t
<2> so? i have SysFreeString(bstr); to do that for me
<3> gah
<2> and BSTR to hold it
<4> and how are you planning to stop _bstr_t::_bstr_t from destroying the string?
<4> er, add a ~ in there
<2> so _bstr_t has a built in cleanup mechanism?
<3> That's the entire point of its existence.
<2> what's BSTR then? in relation to _bstr_t
<3> BSTR is what _bstr_t wraps.
<2> and what's L for?
<3> Just like VARIANT is what _variant_t wraps.
<2> got it.. it's the raw insides that ~_bstr_t cleans up



<1> dextre ever hear of MSDN?
<0> L = "wide"
<3> Hell, just step into the source for _bstr_t
<1> I believe you can't prevent _bstr_t from doing the clean up by using the constructor which takes 2 parameters, one being false for whether to copy using SysAllocString
<0> L"foo" = wide literal string
<2> ok
<2> thanks
<0> Wilm: that overload is for copying a source BSTR, to transfer ownership
<0> not the overload being used in this case
<1> So what's he trying to do?
<1> just create and ***ign one?
<0> yes
<1> ok
<3> So, I've been away for a while. Is JB still a flaming fascist?
<5> Yup
<3> Some things never change.
<0> i'm amazed that people like dextre use things without understanding them
<5> Some things do, he's got penis smaller than before (which defies many biology and physics laws)
<6> eh? you've only been away what
<6> 5 days or so
<5> 5 days is like so many microseconds
<5> As the idiot who said references and pointers are the same cause most implementations implement them the same way
<5> Your brain is too much rigid
<5> You need to get creative
<6> haha
<5> (that, and your brain didn't make connections his did)
<3> Well, I read an article today that some scientists made light go backwards in a lab. I figured the next thing would be for JB to become a libertarian, Austrian-ecomonist, cl***ical liberal.
<3> But, nah.
<6> well he's not here yet
<5> Who, JB?
<6> he could be undergoing a transformatoin as we speak
<3> Maybe he's reading mises.org
<6> as a caterpillar in a pupa
<5> He's already a cowboy, what do you want a cowboy to transform to
<6> as
<7> Solamente "go backwards" ??? negative speed?? I knew they'd slowed it down to slower than Lance Armstrong can make a bicycle go
<0> yeah, saw it on slashdot
<3> Yep. The pulse exited the end of the fiber before it entered.
<0> didn't read the article though
<1> I'm reading the article now
<0> light's some seriously ****ed up ****
<8> Where can i get a good website to explain how to build a application using INTERNET (Example: a irc server)
<0> the FSM was really smoking crack when he invented it
<6> I hate slashdot
<0> google for bsd sockets, winsock, asio
<8> k
<5> Or beej's stupid guide
<3> Wilm, I can't find the link. Care to paste?
<1> http://www.physorg.com/news66582110.html
<1> it's actually interesting
<1> but I'm still not convinced it went backwards
<1> it's like saying that a magician really makes things disappear
<1> it's an illusion to some point from the way it reads
<7> microsoft writes some of the most worthless documentation ever written
<1> vawjrwrk compared to most companies, it's very good
<9> doh
<5> You mean compared to most companies there actually is documentation?
<1> Yes Ashe. But atleast with MSDN2 there is more examples, better commenting, etc...
<5> I'm fine with MSDN 1
<5> I don't use many functions anyway



<10> at least for winsock (*shudder*), the examples will sometimes not compile
<0> well the problem is that UE people aren't devs
<3> There are all these press stories about the public getting its first look at WMP 11, but it won't be available until Wednesday.
<3> Losers.
<0> and they sometimes bug the developers for sample code, sometimes they write it themselves
<0> no dev, with a full load, wants to spend time writing UE samples
<1> cl0ud I agree they should compile, but even the ones that don't compile are at least a starting point and most people can easily figure out the compiler error
<3> Not that I care. I've had it for months. But, man... lame.
<5> I don't read examples, so dunno
<3> And if Vista Beta 2 doesn't ship this month, I'm installing OpenBSD on this machine.
<5> Why Open?
<10> Wilm true, the errors are usually from differences between library versions and documentation versions
<3> Because it's not Net
<5> How about Free
<3> I like Open's licensing better.
<5> Not like it makes much difference
<5> Just get MacOS X
<10> freebsd's boothbabes have pitchforks and horns
<10> that's all I have to say about that
<11> bye all
<3> "...software bound by the GPL terms can not be included in the kernel or "runtime" of OpenBSD, though software subject to GPL terms may be included as development tools or as part of the system that are "optional" as long as such use does not result in OpenBSD as a whole becoming subject to the GPL terms."
<3> That, specifically, is what I dig about OpenBSD.
<3> It's a middle finger directed at RMS.
<0> you'll use the GPL and you'll love th GPL or else RMS will make sweet hairy love to you
<3> Or sing to you.
<3> I can't decide which is worse.
<4> the sort of love you can normally only get at $29.99 an hour direct from Peterhu
<10> read poetry to you?
<4> must confess I've rather gone off the GPL myself. I think it's a good idea, and has certainly created a community of software
<3> RMS singing <<<<< Vogon poetry.
<1> peter you use IRC from work?
<4> but it's a PITA
<6> yes
<0> sure do
<6> he doesn't work
<0> not at work, at least
<0> working is for 2 am+
<1> I don't think I could, would get too distracted, plus I share an office
<1> my office mate is too nosey and I wouldn't want to answer all his questions
<1> How many groups have you worked with?
<6> what?
<6> what does answering his questions have to do with IRC
<1> nothing at all, just curious
<0> groups?
<1> groups at MS
<0> oh, just Visual C++
<6> so if you hate, you can blame him
<1> hate who?
<0> i left microsoft in november of 2004
<6> hate it
<1> I like it
<1> :)
<1> I found his blog, that's why I asked
<6> haha bitch, is that when bush won the electoin?
<1> Where are you now Peter?
<3> When you cross Zen and libertarianism, you get this: http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/freedom.html
<0> wilm, in virginia
<0> at a company called objectvideo
<1> Solamente are you still in the Seattle area?
<3> Hell no.
<1> Virginia is a bit far, my sister lives out there in the Norfolk area
<1> does everyone hate Seattle?
<3> Everyone that's not brainwashed.
<4> peterhu - How longs it normally take for the VS team to triage a bug? I want to see how your report fares
<0> it depends on what the threshold for votes on a ladybug bug is
<0> once it exceeds some threshold, it makes its way into the actual product database
<3> Ladybug bug?
<4> ahso :/ so we need more votes
<0> MSDN Product Feedback aka ladybug
<4> Sol, go vote for http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/viewfeedback.aspx?feedbackid=cfdcb006-9338-483d-a15d-f91cc12e128b
<5> They use GUIDs for too many things
<0> heh


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