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<0> ah, theyr'e the bestest food ever
<1> never trust a brit on matters of food
<0> you really need to find some
<1> there's a good reason why there aren't english restaurants, only pubs =)
<0> bah
<2> Just ask the French
<2> they'll tell you all about it Asriel.
<1> used to not like french cuisine before my wife turned me on to a local french place, so good
<1> they moved to leesburg from france, poor bastards
<1> expensive (bills usually $100+ for two), but really good food
<1> the fillet mignon i had last time was the best i've ever had
<0> french restaurant service ****s now
<0> it does not come recommended
<1> well, they are french =)
<0> never used to be that way, thought it was always pricy
<1> all this talk of inedible english cuisine has made me hungry



<0> as well it should
<1> americans are in the same boat, i guess
<1> we also make disgusting, but tasty, food
<3> does anyone know what is an ***embly language and give me an example ?
<4> ***embly languages are thsoe which gives instructions that a CPU processes directly.
<0> well, I also have curly fries. so it's a cultral fusion
<3> can i download them or i must buy them
<4> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/***embly_language
<5> you can neither download or buy a language, that doesn't make sense
<4> Google and Wikipedia are your friends, Erag0n.
<3> cn28h i mean to buy a cd and install it
<4> You'll need a compiler, Erag0n, and I'm pretty sure you'll find free ones.
<3> anythign else ?
<6> well, he'll need an ***embler
<4> Huh... Right.
<4> Anyway.
<4> Start by reading up.
<6> this isn't your first time trying to program at all, is it Erag0n ?
<5> you could get 'gas'
<6> (if so, I don't think I would recommend starting off with ***embler)
<5> but regualr gcc will build ***embly too
<3> no , i made programs , but i am newbie
<5> what makes you want to use ***embly?
<6> ***embler programmers are in increasingly lower demand than they once were
<3> rdragon it gives cmd imigently to system , not that i cant make what i want with basic , but i want to learn something more
<6> "cmd imigently" <-- ??
<6> what do you want to make?
<3> it can give instructions to CPU processes directly.
<6> so?
<6> what do you want to make?
<5> what CPU are you going to be programming for?
<3> i havent used it yet so i dono
<5> if you're not sure what architecture you're using, ***embly probably isn't for you
<3> i ll give the shot , just for expirance with new languages
<5> oh dear
<5> you realize ***embly isn't a single language?
<5> there are probably hundreds of ***embly languages
<5> if not more
<3> i just need one
<5> and even the same ***embly languages might have more than one flavor
<5> what architecture are you using right now?
<6> Erag0n it sounds like you're in way over your head... if you want to learn a programming language, learn something high level like C++
<3> i ll also do that
<6> also?
<6> forget about ***embler
<3> dragon i just want to learn some basic on them nothing advanced
<6> what in hell for?
<3> bb
<6> stop wasting time and do something meaningful
<3> i ll take my decision in few days . c ya
<4> Eh, knowledge of ***embly can be useful... Not much for actually programming in it, but to give a better udnerstanding of how a processor works.
<1> we'll be waiting in anticipation
<1> ok, time to grab some lunch and get off my duff
<6> DrkMatter he hasn't indicated that he wants to learn how a processor works
<6> DrkMatter if he wants to learn that anyway, he should pick up a computer organization book and learn it directly
<1> and the fact that he sounds like a kid that knows basic and wants to more on to something "cooler"
<7> hello there i bought a book :sams teach yourself visual c++ 6 in 21 days and i am in the first lesson ,the problem is that i am using visual studio ..and in one part it says right click over the button and select cl*** wizard from the opoup menu .. i cannot find teh cl*** wizard ..in visual studio :-(
<0> are you using Visual studio 6?
<7> no visual studio 2005
<0> And you don't see a discrepancy in using a book designed for Visual studio 6 with Visual studio 2005, a full 3 versions newer?
<7> :-(.



<0> Anyway, the cl*** wizard is long dead
<0> If you want to learn C++, we recommend "Accelerated C++", by Koenig and Moo
<7> ok thank u
<8> iporosi you're joking about the title of the book, right?
<9> hello, does anyone has a good cpp file of templated doubly linked list?
<7> no..
<8> aubite yes, it's <list>
<9> no I want something more simple for a presentation.
<8> what leads y ou to believe that list is complex?
<9> I mean it has an iterator and all..
<8> well wha the **** else would you want for a list?
<9> just add,remove simple functions
<8> ok, what's the point of this exercise?
<8> how are you going to refer to nodes in the list?
<9> struct
<8> that supposedly answered my quesiton about refer?
<9> struct that has two nodes next,prev and the template data
<8> I know how to writre one
<8> err, write one
<8> been doing that since before you were born
<9> okay!
<8> what's this presentation for?
<7> well ok i need to learn visual studio because basically i nned to create a gui and a basic program the problem is that i have visual studio 2005 and the book that i got is for visual c++ 6 ..any ideas?
<9> it's for business students
<9> an introduction to datastructures
<8> so this has little, if anything, to do with C++
<8> iporosi if you don't understand the C++ language, perhaps you shouldn't be usiing it to write GUI program as the 1st steps
<7> where can i ask then ?
<9> well it has to do with some C++
<8> iporosi my little to do comment was to aubite
<8> aubite oh? what does it have to do with C++?
<9> c++ code should be there
<9> definitions
<9> of some functions of the list
<8> all findable from any adequate explanation of std::list
<8> including the standard itself
<9> can you suggest a link?
<8> I haven't looked at any lately. I rely on Josuttis "The C++ Standard Library" and some bits in Meyer's "Effective STL"... and the standard from time to time
<8> but if you're (for some reason) trying to teach HOW to make containers (like doubly linked list, though God knows why, we have a perfectly good one) then I suspect you'll probably want to write your own
<8> looking at the implementation of the one you have w/ your compiler
<8> will probably teach you a lot
<8> iporosi what do you _need_ this GUI program for??
<8> aubite but I'm still wondering what you're going to use in place of an iterator for you list
<9> no need for iterator
<8> really? how are you going to reference your "nodes" ?
<8> raw pointers?
<8> you're seriously going to suggest that to traverse the list you should do mypoiinter = mypointer->next; ??
<8> (or ->previoius if you're going the other way)?
<10> vawjr: happy martin luther king day
<7> well basically just to create some dialogs and ask for user responces get this respnoces and store them in an array and then display them in another dialog (reading the array)
<9> yes
<9> "simple" templated doubly linked list
<9> :)
<8> aubite and what will your "students" learn from this?
<8> I suggest that IF you need to show how to write one, you at least pick a language that doesn't have one as part of its standard library
<8> iporosi and you want to write this in C++ why?
<7> cause i can use visual studio to do it (well i thought so )
<7> because some1 suggested that with mfc is very fast and easy .
<8> the interface between C++ and Windows hasn't been implemented very well
<8> "some1" lied through their teeth to you
<4> Hm, if I disallow ***ignment and copy construction, I'll effectively stop an object from being copied, right? OR are there a thrid way to copy that I forgot about?
<10> * You were kicked from #c by dbtid (poison)
<10> -
<10> #c unable to join channel (address is banned)
<10> -
<10> damn racist
<8> wrong ***hole, it's likely your membership in #xxxp***wordz
<7> hahaha
<8> so STFU or we'll toss you from here too
<4> Hehe
<7> well i see but now i have visual studio 2005 and the book that i got is for visual c++ 6 ..this is the main problem
<7> any websites ith tutorials?
<8> don't know, I don't do MFC stuff


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