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<0> peterhu how the **** are we supposed to use vc7.1 AND vc8.0 on the same ****ing source??
<0> in the same ****ing source safe "project"
<1> I thought the .sln was compatible between both
<1> unlike the solution/project file incompatibility between 6.0 and 7.x
<0> what goddamned ****ing ***hole decided to use the same name for a project file and make them incompatible?
<0> Swish guuess what? they're not
<1> uhoh!
<0> Redmond is lucky today...winds are too high to launch
<1> haha
<2> it's been management's call to keep the different versions incompatible (what better way to "convince" *cough* force *cough* people to all migrate to the new version if you can't easily share projects/solutions) for awhile
<3> Heh
<2> 7.0 and 7.1 and 8.0 are all incompatible with one another (7.0, 7.1 vs. 8.0 makes a little sense, 7.0 vs. 7.1 makes almost no sense)
<2> so you'll need two different solutions, with two different project files for each project
<2> maintence nightmare
<2> maintainence
<4> i have two directories, vc8 and vc71 and have different vcproj and sln files for each version... though that ****s since i have to add/remove source in two places
<0> so how the **** are you supposed to stay in business while you' trying to convert ****
<0> I have NO idea why we have to go back and fix something, but sure as **** we do
<2> i agree it royally ****s
<2> josh was furious about the decision to make 7.1 incompatible for no reason
<0> they really deserved to be nuked
<0> "let's keep multiple copies of all the source just because the compiler vendor is a ****head"
<2> it could be worse, you could have to rewrite the code i'm working on =)
<2> well, the multiple copies of the source itself shouldn't be required, just the project/solution files (still a pita)
<2> Solamente would like this, i just saw code in a utility ***embly that instantiates an ASP.NET Page object to get the current user context
<2> bwahahaha
<2> sigh
<2> i've made myself sad
<2> aspx page -> calls into utility ***embly -> instantiates a page object -> accesses the User property
<2> hilarious
<5> bye all g`night all
<2> their lack of understanding of namespaces, references vs. value types, the ref keyword (C#) and tendencies towards p***ing untyped collections (ArrayLists) back and forth all over the place has made me wish I had stuck with my black studies major
<2> oh, and i really wish they'd stop calling ToString on string types
<4> who's "they" ?
<2> the offshore developers that originally made this spaghetti diner
<4> ah
<4> i hate to have to rewrite other people's code
<0> peterhu ... some time back (6 years ago)I had to go chase down a bunch of memory leaks in some code. not related to the leaks, I kept running across tihngs like:
<0> somecharstar[strlen(somecharstar)] = '\0';
<2> hah
<2> good stuff
<0> when I asked what the hell it was for, the programmers told me that all C strings had to end with '\0'
<2> did you ask them how strlen magically operates?
<0> and asked me how long I'd been programming
<2> that would have been hilarious
<0> nah, they were mac programmers
<2> ah
<2> damn those length prefixed string weenies
<0> oh, that's right, they were probably used to Pascal
<0> <shrug>
<2> time for a cat break
<2> what a stinky cat
<2> why does the MLB spring training start in feburary?
<2> what a silly sport
<0> it's spring in Florida and Arizona
<2> heh
<2> making heads or tails of type-less code in a type-safe language adds hours of overhead
<2> i need to go back in SCC to the original code to figure out, oh, they added integers as strings to that ArrayList
<2> blech
<0> I've been puzzled about the popularity of tuples. both in Python and with boost::tuple
<3> Hey Khan
<3> We've got a client who wants us to write a C# or VB application that he wants to deploy on a citrix server
<2> sigh, they also don't write code to minimize collection iterations, yeesh
<3> I'm not that familiar with it, so I'll probably write up a test application just to make sure the basic functionality works on their setup
<3> But is there any problem with that sort of thing that you know of offhand?
<3> It'll just be tied in to a SQL Server somewhere
<3> Won't even use local files or anything
<2> foreach foo in bar { if (cond1) { do x; } } if (cond2) { foreach foo in bar { if (cond1) { do y; } } }
<2> that's just sweet
<2> i've never used citrix
<2> so i don't know
<4> wow
<3> Me neither
<3> Nice code
<3> I understand it's very similar to Terminal Services
<3> I haven't used that either, but you have, right
<2> (i should say that order of operation is not important in this case)
<3> Isn't the theory that like ten guys can use the same application via terminal services
<3> (If licensed to)
<2> that's my impression too, but i don't know that much
<2> also: hispanics need to learn how to operate a phone correctly
<2> every day i get at least one speaking spanish on my home phone
<2> misdialed a cell or some such
<3> Maybe your number's one off from a taco joint
<2> well, it's still better than one of our old numbers in seattle
<2> it was a teen heath crisis line or some such
<2> so we'd get these kids with VD's calling us
<2> it was REALLY tempting to **** with them
<2> but we never did
<3> Haha
<2> i mean our number was one off the teen crisis line
<6> where is the include path for VS? once i install mysql-devel on windows, cna i just include mysql.h ?
<4> phatlip, Tools->Options->Project Settings->VC++ Directories
<4> select Include directories and add the mysql include dir
<7> i need to know how to make graphical programs in xwindows
<7> like where do i start?
<8> Chose an api
<7> and can i do it from a terminal c program
<9> you really want to program straight for X?
<7> yeah
<9> you might check x.org
<7> err not for x but for the xwindows system
<8> n01d:I hope you're already good in c++
<7> no i'm not
<8> Then forget itr
<8> -r
<7> yeah no ****
<8> Learn to do console applications
<10> hi, does a HOOK have to be called from a dll?.
<11> no0blet: system-wide hooks do
<7> i was just wondering if there was a quick way to learn but that's alright
<7> thank you and later
<8> n01d: There no way of learning c++ quickly
<8> It takes years
<12> indeed, and by then, it's changed
<10> yeah thats what i was after i think EwIck. Using SetWindowsHookEx().
<12> so you get to unlearn some and learn some new stuff
<8> Arg... he left
<9> it will also have to do with your proficiency in other languages. If you are proficient in other programming languages learning C++ is much easier.
<8> f**ker ;)
<12> as long as you understand that you're actually learning a new methodology, and not just a new syntax for expressing the same stuff
<11> I'm learning new stuff, every day
<9> well, it's not necessarily a paradigm shift, but it might be (depending on where you're coming from)
<11> like in the past several weeks, I learned that I must be just about the only programmer at work who does error checking
<11> so I have to do it for others
<11> grr.
<9> ew
<11> I'm just kidding, they built the thing rather quickly (impressively)
<11> I'm just making it stronger by not allowing end-user mistakes
<11> I have to say it was ridiculous when I first started
<11> ***ert() when it couldn't launch some external app. instead of just MessageBox
<10> thats somethin which i learnt before :) _***ERT() in crtdbg.h
<11> ***ert for user mistakes is BAD
<11> sorry, not bad, WRONG
<2> hmm, it seems like the molding in my dinning room is separating
<2> that has me concerned
<13> you're rich
<13> just fix it.
<2> pfft
<2> wife spends all the money
<13> kill her
<2> not a bad idea
<13> you get a triple bonus
<2> i think i've got a half million policy on her too
<13> 1) You get all your money to yourself
<2> w00t
<13> 2) you get her life insurance
<13> 3) you get to have all the new women you want
<13> though, with 3 you quickly lose 1 and 2
<2> indeed
<14> What would be a good word to describe both, functions and cl***/struct/enum etc. declarations?
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