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<0> you compile them to make applications
<1> :)
<2> yes but i only can execute them like ./myfile.c
<0> huhuhuh
<1> :)
<1> heh
<1> when you complie them with GCC
<1> give the comand : gcc file.c -o outputfile
<1> then ./outputfile or sh outputfile
<2> yes correct
<1> if u are using linux
<0> Smileycam: when you compile something you get a.out
<2> i type this:
<2> gcc -ansi -Wall -pedantic -o filename.c filename.c
<2> well, thats how we are taught at Uni
<2> is this wrong?
<3> Missing many many many flags
<2> such as?
<3> And it's more like gcc -c whatever.c -o whatever.o
<3> Then gcc whatever.o -o whatever.exe
<3> (.exe is for the example)
<1> heh
<2> well, i guess i wont be p***ing this exam
<1> Smileycam
<3> Well, seeing your first question, you definitely won't
<2> thanks
<1> =))))
<3> He'll become Crocodile Dundee instead of a programmer
<1> :)))
<1> true
<1> i say , and recognise i don't know how to aproach some mathematical problems for alghoritms , but i'm not so "WOOD" to programming
<3> Hm, when you type WOOD I read WORD
<3> :/
<1> :)
<4> I would love to be Crocodile Dundee instead of a programmer
<3> True, true
<4> but then again, I do want to be the hacker in swordfish, when he was hacking the FBI
<1> presitend of USA
<1> is better 4 u
<1> :))
<3> Well, he gets blowjobs too, true
<4> hehe
<3> At least the previous one did
<4> but too many people dislike you
<4> not fun
<3> Who cares, you can get them killed if they don't like you
<4> you cant... wit the media and all
<3> You can kill the media
<1> don't worry
<1> you'l find something 4 media
<1> :)
<4> all good points
<4> now I can be the president
<3> Start with killing all the idiots
<4> there will only be left 3 people
<3> Exactly
<5> hey guys!
<5> is there anybody here working as a full-time programmer in the US?
<3> About 1/4 of the people in here
<3> Not counting the idiots
<3> So about 3-4 people
<5> :D
<5> including u I presume?
<6> He said: no idiots
<7> I might be full-time, not sure
<8> lol
<8> Elsewhere: do you have a more specific quesiotn?
<5> well I was wondering about salaries
<7> very regionally determined
<5> what is the average there like?
<8> depends on region, and on what you know
<8> depends on so many things, that it's not worth asking
<5> say for a junior c/c++ programmer
<7> Elsewhere: $26K
<5> with an msc
<7> $24K then
<9> "how long is a piece of string" ?
<5> 26K aha!
<5> :D
<8> I believe jottinger meant Canadian dollars
<8> so make that $9k
<7> Actually, I'm not sure how much I'm being paid right now
<5> that ****s
<7> I should probably check, eh
<8> and after tax
<8> $4k
<5> that sounds like a bargain
<8> a real steal
<7> Elsewhere: for you, yes
<7> You're probably worth $3k
<9> good rates 4k per day...
<3> $26k for a junior job, might as well sell potatoes at the local wallmart
<8> does walmart sell potatoes?
<3> Dunno, no walmart in here
<5> are there any more realistic figures out there?
<7> I accepted a short-term contract for $70/hour :(
<8> here neither
<3> Heh, I do HTML for $150/hour
<9> go to a jobs site
<7> Very stupid of me, since i could have easily gotten three times that but they caught me by surprise
<7> Cowmoo: yes, walmart sells potatoes
<8> ok jottinger, I've never been to one'
<7> I have
<5> HTML for 150/hour?
<7> I know one of their senior architects, out in SF
<7> and I know a crapload of their ex-senior architects
<3> Elsewhere: yes, but only once a year, cause HTML is boring
<8> I didn't know walmart needed an architect
<5> u work freelance MrAshe?
<8> I thought you just build a big box and slap a sticker on it
<7> Cowmoo: heh, walmart does a huge chunk of the world's ecommerce
<3> Only in the evening
<3> And week-ends
<8> Elsewhere: yes he does, on the streets of Paris and Brussels
<3> (and close to woods, yeah)
<7> Cowmoo: they have scalability issues like you wouldn't believe :)
<8> jottinger: architect = real architect
<8> or software architect?
<7> There are products on the market today that are derived from things they've pulled out of walmart's internal architectures
<8> whatever that is
<7> Cowmoo: software and enterprise architects
<8> ok
<3> Cowmoo: it's just the name of the version of VS they use
<8> hahah
<7> heh
<7> if any of you are in SF, incidentally, walmart is hiring right now
<8> ew
<8> why would you work there
<7> Cowmoo: money?
<7> Benefits?
<8> sounds like a mega bore and a half
<3> I'm a Team System
<3> I used to be an Enterprise Architect
<8> bwahaha
<7> Cowmoo: heh, the ecommerce stuff they do is pretty intense
<8> the word ecommerce conjures up images of boredom in my head
<3> There's nothing intense about ecommerce
<3> Except maybe if you're selling porn videos
<7> MrAshe: there is when you have huge transaction loads
<7> it's a real problem to solve
<8> boooring
<7> note that I don't work for walmart, nor would I
<9> ecommerce is less interesting that watching paint dry
<7> but I have the perfect job for me
<3> You don't wanna know how much $$$ my poor little pieces of software have to handle
<8> why wouldn't you
<8> (to jottinger )
<7> MrAshe: Probably right, but then again, I've handled $24B a year in my own software :)
<3> Good, I win then, har har
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