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<0> Does it use GTK?
<1> nope. Customer UI library
<2> you should see Safari on OS X
<2> paaaaain
<1> Safari is great. It's my primary OS X browser
<2> no
<1> er, Custom UI library. XUL
<2> it hogs up memory like a mofo
<1> meh, works fine for me
<2> and the spinning beach ball pops up a lot more than I like
<1> not that bothered about memory usage
<2> it's my primary browser too
<1> OS X has always been a memory hog
<2> ya but Safari
<1> running it on < 512 is impossible. < a gig is painful
<2> I have a gig
<2> still pain
<3> one of you cheap bastards buy me a mac
<2> going to upgrade to 2 and let's see
<1> my ibook only has 512, and it works reasonablly well
<2> khan stfu, you're rich
<3> pfft
<3> i mowed my own lawn
<1> waiting for the newbooks before I decide if I want to stick with the G4 and just wack a gig more into it
<2> rich in gaeyness that is
<0> I wish I could afford a beautiful mac mini :/
<3> i'm poor
<1> sell the wife
<2> Asriel: you don't want to stick with the G4
<1> it does what I want it to
<2> I played aroudn with my brother's macbook pro
<2> everything loads with one bounce
<1> that's reason to stick with it, over paying more for something I'd have to spent ages configuring
<2> faster than his dual G5
<1> I know, I've played with them as well
<1> It's very, very nice
<2> oh ya, money would be the only object
<1> But my iBook works, has my apps on it, configured like I want, and I've got a freaky battery
<2> you do?
<2> what's freaky about it
<4> do u have the 12" or 14" ?
<1> that even CoconutBattery can't make head not tail of. It has a lot more capacity than it's model number says it should
<1> I can get 6 hours of the laptop without any trouble
<2> pah
<1> 12"
<2> I get 2.5 on a good day on my powerbook :-\
<4> my 14 on normal battery runs about 4 hours if i'm realistic
<1> if I run the screen at half brightness, 6 hours is very acheviable
<4> up to 6 if im not watching porn :o
<2> lol?
<4> was a joke, i don't actually watch porn every time i use my laptop.. just for the record :p
<2> right...
<1> I've the money set aside for the upgrade, so I'll probably do it
<4> Asriel: don't you reckon the ibook screens are a little bit on the dark side?
<1> the rest is set aside from the PowerMac replacement in teh autumn
<0> Do they still use Cocoa? Does the system still fourish with Apple Events?
<2> would you mind terribly if you gave it to me instead?
<1> probably Antrix, but it's OK
<0> (in OS X)
<1> Cocoa? It's the primary development API
<4> yeh, can't complain really
<3> .NET > *
<2> .NET
<2> haha
<3> ph33r
<1> peterhu - Try Cocoa first. The UI development system is....wow
<5> ph33r anything peterhu touches
<2> he touches JB a lot
<5> exactly
<0> Yeah I remember when Cocoa became standardized Asriel, it was that moment when my hardware felt obsolite because I couldn't use it :(
<2> yep
<2> Asriel: do you do any Cocoa dev?
<3> pfft
<3> 2005 > ui builder
<0> CarbinLib was cool, it was happening... then Cocoa came and destroyed my hopes and dreams :(
<2> devrjason: er?
<1> Cowmoo - Not a lot. I'm actually about to start a port of the project I just finished for Windows
<2> hm
<2> but GUI stuff is so boring :-/
<1> yup :/
<2> wish I had a secretary or something to handle it for me
<1> but the interesting stuff is done for this project
<2> yea
<1> just need to port it over, delete the WindowsSpecific directory and write OSXSpecific
<1> which is 100% gui management and OS security interface :/
<2> I need to wrap up a project with GUI stuff
<2> but gave up after 2 days
<2> been on hold since march :-\
<0> I had a Power Mac 7100/80 ... *ahh8
<0> It was capable of running MacOS 9, but I didn't have enough RAM... I was stuck at 8.6 ...
<1> never had much mac interest until OS X
<0> Does OSX have AppleScript?
<1> yup
<6> hi all
<6> salam all
<1> don't use it though :)
<0> yay :D
<3> powershell > applescript
<0> Powershell?
<1> ahahahaha. powershell. ahahaha
<1> no matter how great it is, that name renders it just...rolf
<3> indeed
<3> it's pretty nice though
<0> What is powershell
<1> aye, I know
<3> just wish vista had it
<7> is there a way to modify an stl container using 'for each'? "for each (int i in vec) i++;" <== this doesn't do anything
<3> it's microsoft's shell based on .NET
<1> the vista people probably said "No way in hell I'm putting the word "Powershell" in my release"
<1> and who can blame them?
<5> Buoy there's no such thing as 'for each' in C++
<5> not sure where you learned that it is
<5> there is a std::for_each, though
<7> there is in vs2005 :/
<1> Buoy - There is a foreach
<3> for_each
<1> in the standard library
<7> anyone has vs2005?
<3> and foreach (c++/cli)
<1> yay for key not working
<8> many of us have it
<5> yes, Buoy
<7> not cli
<1> _! damnation
<5> 'for each' is not part of C++
<8> Buoy it's NOT standard C++
<7> i'm sure it is, try it (without cli)
<3> foreach *is* standard c++/cli though =)
<5> Buoy - YOU try it
<3> erm
<3> for each
<1> trust us, there is no "for each" keyword pair in standard c++
<3> that is
<3> with the space
<7> it's not standard ok, but that wasn't my question
<3> bouy, it won't compile without /clr
<3> (hence c++/cli)
<1> Then join #c++/cli, where C++/CLI is debated. Albeit quietly
<5> it's not even nonstandard in vs2k5
<7> It does compile for stl containers
<5> sigh
<8> Buoy you're on drugs
<5> then you're not using the C++ compiler
<8> does c# have a for each ??
<1> yup
<3> yes
<5> yeah
<3> "foreach" is the keyword
<7> c# has foreach
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