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<0> NineVolt except thouse w/ more than 10 braincells
<1> we went there first.
<2> i have only one more thing to say and then i'm out
<3> it seems that the US government has sacrificed the lives of some citizens to gain enough support for various causes.
<1> Iraq came later.
<0> NineVolt "Gulf of Tonkin" ?
<3> so to deny that it could've happened with 9/11 - iraq, well, i dunno.
<3> it could have.
<3> i'm not familiar with it
<2> they said they have evidence of sadam using nuclear weapons or whutever...whrere is it?
<0> though that was simply a fabrication
<0> NineVolt the excuse for really going into Viet Nam
<2> where are the nuclear weapons that sadam used?
<3> ah.
<2> the war is almost over
<2> i didn;t see them
<2> is over*
<3> i've even heard that the lusitania was carrying munitions.
<0> _BUFU_ nobody ever said nukes that I'm aware of
<3> which would make it a legitimate target of war.
<1> to be fair BUFU
<2> chimical weapons
<1> Saddam did throw the inspectors out of the country
<3> i'm not denying the popular account of what happened. i'm merely questioning it.
<4> You can't use that as an excuse for anything
<3> and i think there's great value in questioning things.
<1> and was shooting at American jets, what, daily?
<3> heh
<1> they had violated resolution after resolution
<3> if iraqi jets were flying in US airspace, they wouldn't be getting shot at? :P
<1> that seems like a good enough excuse, if you believe in the UN.
<1> US jets weren't in Iraqi airspace
<3> he was shooting at US jets in US airspace?
<1> where were we patrolling?
<1> a buffer between Iraq and
<3> honestly, i'm not familiar with this aspect of saddam.
<1> ****
<1> I can't remember anything right now.
<3> point being, we were way closer to iraq than the US.
<0> between Iraq and Iraq
<3> what if iraqi jets were patrolling off the US coast?
<1> I don't remember the specifics here
<0> 3 miles? np
<2> it's a crazy world out there :D
<1> but, it was part of the original Gulf War
<1> they lost, we made the rules.
<2> see you later :)
<3> i'm just saying that the winners write the history books. it's good to question what happened.
<3> always.
<4> That's the most sensible thing you've said this discussion ;)
<3> my thc levels are at an all time low.
<3> i need to go recharge. see you all in the future :P
<1> ok, shower and lunch time.
<0> lunch?
<0> it's not even 11AM
<3> actually wait
<3> vawjr, you're the pilor, right?
<3> pilot even.
<3> do you guys still talk to air traffic control the same way as commercial flights do?
<0> nine, I have an ASEL license also
<3> o_O
<0> and I haven't flown since 9/11
<0> actually for about a decade now
<3> do you know if you need any special qualifications to do air traffic control?
<3> i was on a united air flight the other day, their channel 9 lets you listen in on air traffic talk...
<5> what's 9/11?
<3> and man that sounds like a great job :P
<3> plus the chick doing cleveland's sounds hot :P
<3> all you do is tell people to speed up/down, go higher/lower, or switch frequencies. amazing.
<3> and the occasional turn.
<3> although bringing people in for landings must ****.
<0> NineVolt to become an ATC controller? nerves of steel, ability to handle stress, and younger than 35 I think
<3> hopefully when they start you out you don't have to land anyone.
<3> that was the only part that sounded challenging, you gotta be one hell of a speedtalker :P
<0> nobody gets "talked down" these days
<0> I could do the job, but I'm too old
<0> have you ever played "Air Traffic Control" ??
<0> I've actually done it .... middle of the night, visiting the local ATC facility... handling 2 aircraft and the REAL controller sitting next to me
<3> they let people do that?
<3> i have a really full beard though, they might think i'm a security threat :P
<0> special case, I guess... I was flying rather regularly, "knew" all the controllers anyhow.... visited the place about once a month (we'd take our cl***es from work there too...we provided the computers for some of the sites) and _always_ took cookies
<3> ah.
<3> lucky bastard :P
<0> we'd taken one of the section chiefs w/ us one day to Catalina for "buffalo burger" lunch to thank them for all the help
<3> heh
<0> but the game itself is enough adrenalin
<0> lemme see if I can find if it's still for sale (or if there is a free one)
<3> mmm....
<3> i really need to shower though :P
<3> i haven't washed my hair in like a week. brb :P
<0> http://compsimgames.about.com/library/products/aapr_atc_simulator.htm
<0> there's a review of the commercial game
<0> http://www.ags.uci.edu/~tmheaney/SNA/ATCsims.htm claims to be a "complete" list of freeware, shareware, commercial ATC games
<0> and the answer to the 1st question on that page is 0
<0> the runway isn't long enough nor strong enough for a 747 (I've been there many times)
<3> nice.
<3> thanks.
<3> and KoRaH, sorry, i don't think anyone here speaks romanian. speak english please.
<6> howdy
<6> anyone know if making a simple windows based application that will handshake with sockets (ie telnet) be beyond a n00b
<7> if you can read and write to files, reading and writing to sockets isnt too much more
<6> ok cool thanks :D
<6> best dig my book out and start reading
<6> thanks
<8>
<0> gonna make some lunch, bbiab
<9> guys do you know any p2p messenger like utility in wich 2 ppl can view and edit a file simultaneous?
<10> Microsoft Live Meeting, IIRC
<10> But I haven't used it.
<9> thank you
<9> is it free?
<9> let me google it, thanks
<3> umm.
<3> i'd imagine it's dependent on the file type.
<3> unless you mean in a strictly binary sense.
<0> both edit the same file? seems somewhat iffy to me
<11> i think he means more like collaborate
<0> one hopes so
<0> I'd like to get a good live collaboration tool
<11> have you seen MS Live Meeting?
<9> I'm thinking at a source file to be honest :)
<11> ... how do you envision editing it 'at the same time' ?
<9> well.. it could be loaded in memory, edited
<9> and who wants to save it, can save it at any time
<9> on it's own comp
<11> so you're just looking for a standard source control solution
<9> or, if some checkbox is on, on the other guys comp :)
<0> I think a source control system might be more suited to what you want
<9> the last days I've done homeworks for my ex-colegues :) and I found myself in the situation of indicating line numbers and telling them where to look when I could simply point to them in a cool "programmers messenger"
<9> :P
<0> that's a different thing entirely
<9> that's what I'm looking for, and the "edit" thing is for educational purpose, so I could tell them: "let me see you doing the rest of the code"
<11> remote ***istance sorta does that
<0> if everyone is on 'doze
<9> I don't think it works with remote ***istance
<9> only one user/account
<0> what "don't work" ?
<9> and it's too much unusefull information sent on the network
<9> oh... remote ***istence
<9> :P
<9> I was thinking at remote desktop
<9> I don't know what's remote ***istence
<0> yes, rd woudln't suffice
<9> "Multiplayer Notepad" :P
<9> with voice and source highlightning
<3> heh
<3> that's irc.
<3> re: multiplayer notepad.
<0> sounds like it to me
<9> :))
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