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<0> but look at iraq under his rule. it was a somewhat reasonable place.
<0> and look at it now. has W not killed tens of thousands there too?
<1> depends on who you were
<0> at least when saddam was killing people, there wasn't chaos in the streets.
<0> at least he kept everyone in check.
<0> before it was just the political troublemakers that were getting offed.
<0> now it's everyone. if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, you're blowing up. whether you're a man woman or child.
<1> so you think a police state is preferable?
<0> to a war torn state?
<1> yes
<0> honestly, i don't know.
<0> i haven't directly experienced either one.
<1> fair 'nuff
<0> it seems that iraq is a troubled country.
<2> anyway, you should be following Iran now :)
<0> and that their only options... well.. **** :P



<0> oh i am.
<0> as soon as shock and awe happened, i placed bets on a US invasion of iran before bush is out of office.
<2> no
<2> they wont invade Iran
<0> oh we have to.
<2> no you dont
<1> we do?
<0> and with the position we're in now, why wouldn't we?
<0> we've almost got them surrounded already :P
<2> the US or Israel will bomb Iran, not invade them
<0> the "threat" of them developing a nuclear weapon...
<0> their islamic ways :P
<2> Nine, its not islamic
<3> wait, wait - are you JB in disguise?
<0> oh it's gonna happen. i've got money on it.
<1> I have no problem with them _having_ nukes, I just would object to them _using_ them
<2> vawjr, but if they say they want to burn Israel to the ground
<0> "Most Iranians are Muslims; 89% belong to the Shi'a branch of Islam, the official state religion, and about 10% belong to the Sunni branch (most of whom are Kurds), which predominates in most Muslim countries. Non-Muslim religious minorities include the Bah' Faith, Mandeans, as well as Zoroastrians, Jews, and Christians. The latter three are officially recognized minority religions and have reserved seats in the Majlis (Parliament)."
<2> they will use them
<4> it will be a real war when US ll invade iran. it wont be as iraq
<0> wikipedia
<0> Quantum`` : sounds islamic to me.
<0> i'm a huge supporter of them having nukes.
<0> i mean, israel's had nukes forever.
<2> yes
<2> but
<3> and? You seem to be equating islam with violence
<0> it's about time we get some balance in the area.
<2> they never threatend to use them
<2> Iran has
<2> theres a difference
<0> Asriel : no, i seem to be equating islam with a reason for W to invade.
<0> iran has threatened to use them?
<3> Which is akin to equating Christianity with the Klu Klux Klan, and hence providing China with a legitimate reason to invade the US
<0> so far iran hasn't threatened to do anything but develop a peaceful nuclear energy program.
<2> NineVolt, saying they will burn israel till there is no one left is the same as saying they will use them
<2> no?
<1> no
<2> it is
<1> one is political rhetoric
<3> No, it's pretty standard radical posteuring
<0> Asriel : i never said the reason was legitimate.
<3> Noone would actually *use* nuclear weapons unless they were suicidal
<1> Asriel well, we've met a few of those in the world lately
<2> well I am sorry but fundamentalism has been proven to be very suicidal
<5> exactly, nations have to think about tomorrow but psychos don't
<2> Asriel
<3> Well, the suicide bombers are generally rather stupid young people easily brainwashed
<0> shi'a muslims aren't very "fundamentalist"
<3> you'll notice the people who make the bombs and plans do *not* want to die :)
<2> the game theory of nukes ***ume reasonable leaders
<0> in fact, very few muslims are.
<2> Nine
<3> very few muslims are what?
<0> i wouldn't call iran a state of islamic fundamentalists, no.
<2> saying the holocaust didnt happen and then say to burn down israel is fundamentalistic
<1> their current president seems a bit odd, that's for sure
<0> you're taking their statements out of context.
<1> but then, presidents all seem a "bit odd"
<0> they didn't claim that the holocaust didn't happen.



<2> no I am not
<2> yes they did
<3> indeed. but we can't judge a whole country by their leader
<0> they questioned the popular account of the holocaust.
<1> THEY didn't, their prez did
<0> they didn't outright deny its occurence.
<0> and i think that's a valiant thing to do. one should always question everything.
<1> then everyone who's translating that guys speeches into English is incompetent
<3> I get the feeling the rest of the Iranian government spent their time shaking heads and doing damage control for a rather dumb*** "leader"
<2> Nine
<2> http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=countries&Area=iran&ID=SP105305
<2> should I continue to paste 20 more
<2> ?
<2> Iranian President at Tehran Conference: 'Very Soon, This Stain of Disgrace [i.e. Israel] Will Be Purged From the Center of the Islamic World and This is Attainable'
<2> http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=countries&Area=iran&ID=SP101305
<6> the binary value of 25 is 10101011010111011 or something... Is there a function to determine that?
<2> Israel will never ever take the bargain of waiting till Iran has nukes
<2> and they are right
<6> i need only to print it in a file
<0> i read it.
<0> and please quote for me where he denies the occurence of the holocaust
<1> _BUFU_ what are you babbling about? the binary value of 25 is 11001
<0> (the first url)
<3> Not as '2' concat '5'
<0> he did not deny the occurence of the holocaust.
<3> Well, yes, but firstly - why would you want it?
<6> because it's a stupid homework :(
<3> If this is some university exercise, I doubt they want you to just invoke some of the standard library
<6> i have to
<3> I suspect they want you to actually write the loop and bitwise operations that will create that output
<1> you will likely want to translate one char at a time
<6> yes
<1> and yes there's a way using teh standandard library
<1> in C++
<2> Nine: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm
<7> speak romanian ?
<6> da
<6> prv me
<1> I have NO interest in helping someone do it in C
<6> in c++
<6> it's ok
<4> privet
<1> cout << std::bitset<8>(yourchar)
<2> Nine: I think you are blinded by your ignorance
<1> will do it for whatevre is in yourchar
<3> My advice would be submit two versions of the work - one using the STL, one using a loop of bitwise operations
<1> I presume you can write the loop
<0> Quantum`` : again, i fail to see his denial of the occurence of the holocaust.
<2> holocaust = myth
<6> yes
<2> thats what he says
<0> it is, indeed.
<6> i was looking for a shorter, faster method
<2> Nine... ?
<0> so if i were to say that me being superman is a myth, does that mean that i don't exist?
<3> Quantum`` - It's just rhetoric
<1> what the **** could POSSIBLY be shorter than one conversion??
<1> bitset<8>(blah) ??
<6> oh sorry i didn't see that line that you wrote
<6> thankyou :)
<2> Asriel, who cares if it is rethoric or not, what would you do if he says britain should be removed from the face of the earth and then make nukes?
<0> he questions the POPULAR ACCOUNT OF THE HOLOCAUST. learn to read correctly and infer the correct meaning of peoples' statements.
<0> and i for one back his opinion wholeheartedly.
<3> Well, it sounds bloody hypocritical to say "We can have them, you can't"
<0> why was israel created where it was? wouldn't it make sense to take a part of germany instead?
<1> NineVolt "popular" according to whose pea brain?
<3> And that sort of attitude does *not* make for good diplomatic relations, and fosters the sort of problems we'd rather avoid
<0> popular as in commonly accepted.
<0> by everyone.
<0> very few people don't subscribe to the popular account of the holocaust.
<0> i myself buy into it completely.
<1> clearly he doesn't accept it, and there's no way _I_ can establish what HE thinks is "popular"
<2> Asriel, look pakistan has the bomb, and nobody makes a big fuss about it, because they didnt say they wanted to use it to erase another country - I ran has
<2> that is the difference


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