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<0> You can't just define escapism as whatever it is you don't do. <0> That's not agnosticism, it's narcissism. <1> If I get together a social consensus for the Church of The Smurf, does that make it as valid as a more established religion? <0> I have no idea what you mean by valid. <2> jbatista: clearly it is, scientology is more mainstream then i ever thought possible for fans of a sci fi author <2> and a really bad one at that <0> I'm an agnostic, I don't see how that term could possibly be related to religion. <0> What's a valid or invalid religion? <2> once again: people <0> I choose to judge religions on the basis of their value to the living. <0> Their value to me is absolutely irrelevant. <0> A lot of very nice things have no value to me, but they're still very nice things. <1> So, what makes them valuable? <0> I don't understand <0> Are you asking me what you meant by valid? <0> Seems you should know that by now, if you're really an agnostic
<0> But who can afford to think things through these days <0> Whatever, I'm going to eat now. <2> i declare JBlitzen the loser <2> plus, he smells <0> I wouldn't expect anything else from you <3> heh <0> Heh <1> Agnostic means I lack an opinion, so, no, I guess I wouldn't know. <0> Agnostic doesn't mean you lack an opinion <3> that's unopinionated <0> Agnostic literally means you lack knowledge. <2> i certainly do <1> What I'm saying is that if you're going to defend religion, it might help to define it. <2> all humans do <0> As khan demonstrates, it's perfectly easy to form an opinion without knowledge. <2> but that doesn't stop who i consider a moron to claim they have that knowledge <0> Although in this case, the knowledge in question is of spiritual topics. <0> I'm not going to defend religion <2> wise choice <0> It would offend khan's secular brainwashing <1> What were talking about again? <1> And why do I always ask that at the end of every argument in here? <2> see, you attack me with the term "secular" which makes me believe you're not agnostic <2> as i have never presented anything but an agnostic position <0> You should take notes during these, jb2 <0> I can still believe you're secular, khan. <2> except, you don't have any proof <2> hence, you're religious <0> Just because you want "agnostic" to be defined as "rational" and vice versa doesn't make it so. <0> What do you mean, proof <0> You need proof to make judgments? <2> you said you believe i'm secular <0> Prove that you won't die tonight <2> which means if you don't have proof, you're not agnostic <0> If you think you might die tonight, shouldn't you be doing something more enjoyable? <2> except you have my statements as proof <0> Value judgments aren't claims of certainty <2> yet you can't offer any in defense of your position <0> Are you talking about evidence or proof? <0> And furthermore, why do I need a reason to say anything? <0> asdf <2> there's little distinction <0> Little distinction between evidence and proof? <2> yes <0> Proof dictates certainty <0> Evidence dictates reason <0> support, maybe <0> Do I have reasons for believing that you're secular? <0> Of course I do. <1> Why does it matter, though? <0> But I could say it even if I didn't. <1> That is, why did you bring it up? <0> It's not like my worldview is wrapped around it. <0> I never said it mattered a bit to me. <1> But you mentioned it. <0> In fact, my entire point all along was that I didn't care to change your minds about something. <0> I can mention whatever I like. <1> Do you always discuss things that are irrelevant? <0> Relevant to what? <1> You? <0> What is it with you two and relevance and rationality?
<0> Everything I do or say is relevant to me <0> What other relevance matters? <2> oh boy, here comes the relativistic argument <2> weee <1> So, does it matter to you? <0> Does what matter to me? <1> That peterhu is agnostic? <3> mooo <0> At the moment I'm not sure I'd care if he got run over by a truck <2> a fair statement <2> you shouldn't care for people you don't know <0> Why not? <0> I care about a lot of people I've never heard of. <3> like who? <2> because it can't possible affect your life? <0> I don't know where Estonia is, but I hope the people there aren't living in terrible conditions. <0> I think someone who wishes ill will on unknown people is just a monster. <2> people *here* are living in horrible conditions, you don't need to look to other nations to find destitude people <1> JBlitzen: I believe in the power of Toast. There are many shades of toast, and you can't convince me otherwise. <2> i don't wish anyone ill <3> there's a difference between not caring and wishing ill <2> i just don't care if they exist or not <0> Did I say I had to look to other nations? <2> because i don't know if they do <0> For someone who's supposedly rational, you certainly ***ume a lot. <0> jb2, why would I want to convince you that there aren't many shades of toast? <1> Somebody argue with me about toast so that we can pretend later that it's what we were talking about all along. <0> I've seen and eaten many shades of toast. <2> JBlitzen only likes white bread <1> See, so we agree after all, and all this player hating was all for nothing. <0> That's not true, khan. <0> I'm not player hating, jb2. <0> Whatever that means <1> I disagree. The absence of toast breeds hate. <0> Now that doesn't even make sense <1> And that's really the matter at hand. <2> welcome to your arguments! <2> OH SNAP <0> Nice try, daily show boy. <2> heh <2> i don't even watch that show <2> haven't in years <2> last time i saw it was on a re-run while working out on a saturday morning <2> though i enjoyed colbert's show more <2> as colbert owns, especially on harvey birdman <2> which i've only seen twice <2> (colbert's show) <2> i do watch CBS nonstop though <2> can't get enough of that liberal media goodness <2> plus, CSI portrays realistic crime fighting <2> like infinite resolution on security camera feeds <2> that's a neat trick <2> we need to get a hold of that at work <4> I have a construct in PiADL that creates concurrent threads out of sub sections of a method. I wonder how should I accomplish that.. <1> Just takes a touch of digital enhancement.... and there. You can see the perpetrator's distinctive nucleotides. <2> you'd go download concur <2> concur = the ****, perhaps <2> heh jb2 <3> /agree <4> Maybe mark the areas for later parsing, ***ign them respective method names, start threads by those names and after method end create new methods. <3> is some form of it available for download ?? <2> don't think so <3> ok ;) <3> damn how I wish it were available today <3> looks like a really nice way for managing offloading tasks to our other cores <4> peterhu, rdragon what do you advise? <3> shrug <3> i'm no concurrency expret <3> expret <3> ... <2> etprex <2> idiot <3> yeah, that <3> (not idiot)
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